Like many people I was shocked to see Madlands’ blog and twitter account disappear. He has said that he needs to concentrate on his family business but it is not a secret that he had come under personal attack recently. It started for him a couple of days before the twitter ‘Day of Action’. I don’t think this is a coincidence. I found his blog insightful and informative and it’s a great shame that it is no longer available.
I hope that people now realise that those responsible for these attacks could turn on anyone.
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noted for reference. Very informative…all adding to the long-overdue task of picking these parasites out of our debates.
I have started here>>
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Dear Needle and Madlands. Thanks for another brilliant post I completely understand. I too have thought about discontinuing with my own page again recently. Working on this cause has been nothing but a fools errand. Not enough people are paying attention and even less are doing anything with the information. Now, to learn about this dysfunctional behavior of others involved in ‘the cause’ attacking each other is another indictment on humanity. With friends like this who needs enemies?! Honest to God I wonder whether we have a future as a species… At this rate I sincerely hope not.
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I was contacted out of the blue via DM by one of the bullies, a woman on Twitter previously unknown to me until we mutually followed each other, probably on or just before Paedobritain day. She bluntly asked my opinion of someone whom I’ve observed to be an unusually kind-hearted, decent, very active Paedobritain supporter on Twitter, one whom I often RT’d because he and I seemed to see the CSA issue in fairly similar ways from our tweets. In her DM, she claimed she was ”bothered” by a suspicion that he tweeted under two names. I told her that although I really didn’t care if he had a second account – and I didn’t see any reason for thinking he did – I made it clear that he’s definitely one of my favourite follows. That was my only contact with her.
I found the strange DM more disturbing after I thought about it. Not only because it was obviously an attempt to either fish for derogatory information about an apparently innocent person and stir things up, but because it seemed a rather blatant attempt to divide us during a time of unanticipated success. I have never met any of the people involved, but clearly the target of her DM was a man who demonstrated especially strong support for the Madlands’ online plan for action. I went to the woman’s timeline and saw negative conversations about Madlands and the Paedobritain effort.
It was right out of the Online Social Bullying handbooks some of us are familiar with for younger teenaged girls, called “Let’s Make Drama.” Unfortunately, there are almost always bystanders sucked in by internet bullies, usually kids who feel immensely empowered by the fact that a bully who detests others, finds them acceptable. They are willing to do much of the bully’s dirty work, even defend the bully, working in tandem with him or with other like-minded followers. If caught out, they will attack the victim for even “feeling” bullied and proclaim the target “weak.”
I’ve read plenty of good advice on reasons to ignore or block trolls, but bullies are a bit different. When there is danger of real harm to innocent people, and to their unity or feeling of safety, it must be confronted. There is a lot at stake, and the only ones who benefit from this kind of bullying are paedophiles and those who cover it up. We lose some really good people that way and we simply can’t afford that.
I can see an historical parallel here-
Reminds me of Stella Goldschlag/ Kübler, a Jewish woman born in Germany who collaborated with the Gestapo during World War II, exposing and denouncing Berlin’s underground Jews -likewise Group 13 and Abraham Gancwajch in the Warsaw Ghetto…Survival and wealth seem to have been the incentives back then…
Yes, yes, if it’s not an information war, it’s a spiritual war asking the question “which side are you on?”
Nooooooooooo! Dismayed to see Madlands go, sending my best wishes – his blog is/was a fantastic wealth of information. As someone else said in their comment, there are malevolent forces out there: an information war is going on and certain parties are rattled by it. Truth is the right and only path.
Peace and love x
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Even Outlaw’s friends are dropping like flies. I am at the end here. Since my name appeared on DarrenLavert’y’s FO list my character has been torn to shreds by Jimmy & Darren, my replies to their friend Nancyheart’s blog were edited and totally changed with only one or 2 of my original words remaining. This destructive and upsetting list & video and JJ’s obsession with tearing apart of every good kind, honest person it seems, is coming across as a man on the edge, destructive, hate filled and vile and it all came at the time when #paedobritain happened, they may have failed in there attempts to destroy the most successful day in UK history for anyone associated with CSA but ask yourselves why? Why would 2 men who grew up in care turn on so many decent people and throw aggressive attacks at us all? I can answer that for you. In my opinion, firstly Gojam came along, united a whole nation and #paedobritain trended in a way that no one would ever have hoped or dreamed of, I for one as a CSA survivor will never be able to thank him enough, thousands were educated and have joined our plight. Jimmy and Darren have now attacked, lied, bullied so many decent people, good people, honest people, they have labelled us as nutter’s, cranks, people full of delusion and in Darren’s case the most horrific attacks on our characters. However, we are not all nutters etc and people can finally see that they have tried to destroy me, Gojam, John Clarke, James Reeves, Jan Schaerborg and so so many others. See, when u start attacking thoughroughly decent people then alarm bells start to ring as they are now. I am a truthful honest person, I had amazing parents who loved me and inspired me to be a good humanitarian, I despise injustice in all it’s forms and although I suffer severe ill health thru vaccine damage resulting in MS, Fibromyalgia and I already had CMT muscle wasting I will fight as hard as I can to speak up. The reason I am being targeted is because I hold some very damaging information about these 2 and I am not referring to the incident in 1979 re Darren. I am referring to right now, it is about Darren but ironically it was Jimmy who told me on the phone this revelation, which was the final piece in a big jigsaw. I can see the whole picture you see and they both know I can, hence the reason why they call me delusional, a nutter, a damaged woman etc. I am none of these btw, if I was would I really have had such a successful long career teaching? No I wouldn’t. I have my faults as all humans do but my nature and character are intrinsically good. This damaging truth that I know I will mention, there are a few other people who know it also, one in Janette (misty53) Now ask yourself why the degrading attack on her character. Look, u can all see what’s going on. I know what I know and that is 100% true, as I am a lady of integrity I alone will choose when I decide to talk to the relevant people. I’m tired now, but as I said I will stand up and fight for injustice. Now watch the next wave of attacks come & try to destroy me. Now I know I am not alone it has renewed my strength. Watch this space & thank you to those good decent folk who have supported me. Stay safe there are some Genuine nutters around, too many libellous words and threats to us, we need to make a stand together x Sue Perry. Twitter name:idsatoshater, formerly Anothersurvives and Siouxp22. I keep leaving due to their bullying but no more!
take care mad. your efforts are greatly appreciated.
hope life treats you well. you will be missed
Madlands, you have my support ( & Gojam, too!) 100% all the way. You’re both positive souls who are MAKING a DIFFERENCE. XX
It is reassuring to see some consensus – divide and rule comes to mind when looking at the wreckage here. The white stick analogy is very apposite here in inter-web-land. I am heartened to have regained some solidarity through these posts – we are all so vulnerable. Madlands, Gojam et al. – thanks for your work – I think there was some mention in some earlier seasonal dogma and Books relating to doubt – 40 times etc.
Oh Madlands, please don’t go, your blog is among the best there is and I second everything everyone before me here has to say. Take a good rest to yourself, you so deserve it, be with your boy and family and work, but come back one day please, Madlands, where would this fight be without you and gojam and murun and john ward and others like you so smart and clever at researching and putting it all into words for the likes of me. I read and read and mostly retweet, but I should have said sooner I’ve been so grateful for the knowledge and the extraordinary time you all put into all of this and I’ve learned so much and want to keep going until this is out in the open, even if all I can do in support is getting your info out there. I am so sorry you had this trouble, I didn’t know any of this until today, but I agree wholeheartedly with HunterM, no matter WHO tries to shut this down, lets make a pact to not let them. Take all the time you need, then some more, but please, please don’t go forever, Madlands, you’re too important to the goodness chain. God bless you, I’ll keep you in my prayers whatever you decide and thank you sincerely for everything you have done this far.
I seriously hope that WordPress will allow you to un-delete a blog!!! For I also hope that time will heal!
Those type of nasties must NOT get the upper hand. Fortunately, WordPress allows blocking not just names, but also IP addresses. But I don’t know how to deal with nasties on Twitter (yet)…
Hoping, too, that you’ll be back,
It should be obvious to even the most innocent of observers that there is a war being waged here, an information war. The people we’re dealing with here are merciless, conscienceless, destructive scum. This is not a mere game, nor an online hobby, nor a form of titillating ‘alternative’ gossipy entertainment. It is not for the faint-hearted or the naive; it is a deadly serious assault on powerful, wealthy figures whose reputations, lives, families, careers and freedom are literally put at risk by people like Madlands, Murun and gojam. They will go to any lengths, stoop to any depths, to protect themselves. Sadly, the internet being what it is affords great freedom of speech through anonymity and audience reach, but also gives a wider scope to those who wish to suppress it, manipulate and discredit information presented and those who present it. This sort of activity has long been the preserve of the security services and their deniable, out-sourced private agencies (anyone interested in getting an historical idea of the sort of thing these ‘security’ agencies are capable of should read the book ‘The Cointelpro Papers’ by Churchill and Vander Wall).
The demise of Madlands should be a warning to all bloggers investigating elite paedophile rings, a warning to be on your guard for personal attacks, threats, disruption through sophisicated trolling, techniques such as ‘snowing’ and ‘intoxication’, to be aware that all of your communications can and will be monitored by outside agencies- and to give no quarter in dealing with bullshit on comment boards, not pandering to manufactured ‘internal’ controversies, and steeling yourself (and those you care for) against all and any attacks.
This is the world we live in, this is what we’re up against-
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.”
‘Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you’
‘Nothing is true until a government official denies it.’
Phew, what a tremendous comment! I should have included you on my list of knowing ones, incubusblog, I knew I’d leave someone out if I started naming names! I’m just so grateful to all of you and yes, when you read what those who indulge in this type of behaviour have been capable of in the past… But I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it was easy for they who wanted this to go away to make that happen in the decades gone by, but not now in the Age of Twitter and social media. All we have to do is stand together and keep going. I think #paedobritain day proved that, despite the “interference”, it was a great success and informed many. Lets think back on that for resolve to our cause.
I too, am sad to see the demise of a voice who tries to tell us what is really going on. I am not as well up on things as many of your other commentators but I have learned a lot from you all. Thank you
Thank you Madlands for taking the time to explain the situation. I also noticed JJ wrongly stating that your post was prior to Savile being outed, that was totally incorrect. Your post was during #PaedoBritain Day and related to the effect that our action day was having in awakening people.
I, and many others, were dismayed to see your blog completely taken down. It was informative and honestly written and I cannot help but feel you have played into the hands of those that attempt to silence us.
I have no idea what motive JJ & Anglesy have for seeking to ruin your reputation, and it is now clear that they are also chasing a few others, including Gojam. If there is any way for you to resubmit your blog in the future, then that would be what the majority would wish for. Do not allow yourself to be shut down by a suspect minority, continue to shout loud and clear to those of us that wish to hear.
JJ & Anglesy most certainly do not speak for me and they don’t appear to be working towards a better future either. One has to seriously question their motives in seeking to silence Truthseekers.
Everyone should proceed with caution, there are those who seek to stop us but we must march forward into battle and just step over those who wish to place barriers in our way.
An Icker x
I worked for 14 hours yesterday in the family business. This is the main reason I have to walk away, which is as I have stated previously.
I would, after careful consideration like to say that, yes another factor was the constant attacks from realjimmyjones and anglesy. It went beyond normal.
They seem to have a complete lack of respect for most people. The reaction to me giving my genuine reason for walking away:
“@themadlands Is Your Family Business so pressing you cannot find a minute to respond? #fuckoff #fake #parasite #ghoul”
I find that quite disgusting.
I am also appalled at the two-faced nature of them both. Realjimmy jones is currently upset that someone has threatened to out him and put personal details about him and his family online.
Yet, look at the glee with which he tweeted when he thinks he may have found some personal details about me:
“@deadkeneneddie Oohh! Gt. Yarmouth? Mail the details mate, I am going to bury the fuckers…. :-)”
So he is upset that someone might do it too him, yet with cruel glee wants to “bury” me.
Just like him, I don’t want my family put at risk, so perfectly reasonably I asked that he no longer threaten me in such a way. Even when I walk away, he is still trying to “bury” me and to send me something in the post.
On top of that I was put on a “fuck off” list and subjected to an intimidating video.
It is online bullying and harrassment plain and simple. Some would say a Police matter.
I just flicked through his blog, to see what else has been written about me. I see he has lied about something else and I want to put that straight here.
In a post he shows a screen capture of a tweet of mine and says under it “This was before the Savile scandal broke of course,”.
That is a lie and he knows it. That tweet was from the paedobritain day, and I was trying to ascertain if other people’s blog traffic was up – because that would point to the day working.
So he misrepresented my tweet to make a point that fitted his agenda.
If you have the stomach to trawl through their tweets, count how many times both “jimmy” and Darren mention their blog stats – dozens and dozens of times. Rather two faced I would suggest.
He also claims I see that there are rumours I passed on info to the daily mirror on paedobritain day. I encourage people to search and see where those rumours came from – him!
Without going into details, I had a DM conversation with Murun a while back which he/she can confirm shows I have absolutely nothing to do with the MSM. Murun knows the conversation and the decline I made after we talked, so he/she can confirm that should they wish to – I refused to talk to journalists who asked to talk to me, including the Mirror. I also toldd RJJ that in a DM, so he was aware of it as well.
Actually come to think of it, RJJ actually told me to SPEAK to them when I told him. How does that sit with his later accusations?
Finally, they have also stated I gained from paedobritain day. I would simply ask, as I did ask them – how did I gain? Did I make money? No. Did I gain info that was not already “out there”? No. Did I get fame and fortune? No.
I was going to leave the madlands blog up. But after reading the accusations that I was gaining from a dormant blog in someway, I deleted it. Nothing to see, nothing to be accused of gaining from.
I am completely confused as to why I have been the subject of such attacks. The only reason I could see was this odd demand that I “out” myself. As the demand came from a man hiding behind an internet persona himself, I do hope people can see the hypocrisy of it all.
So to clarify, before I go and spend Easter day with my little boy who has not seen much of me recently, my main reason is all my energy is going into my business. My secondary reason is the constant attacks and threats from those two people which threaten me and my family.
Take care Madlands.
no one but a few delusionals believe anything they say and rather than calling into question our motives they raise questions about their own.
Unfortunately, because of the large number of false IDs that they use I’ve had to enable moderation. My apologies to the genuine.
People should be very wary of any contact with these two/three.
I wouldnt give them the saftisfaction of leaving twitter or take my blog down, those who care about sexual abuse of children, dont attack those who have been abused, or are trying to do something about it!! I would like to know what Mr Jones is doing to help those that have suffered under the hands of Paedophiles, where are his credentilals? I and others have watched how he pulls people apart, with his gang, then out of the blue @MFOkate will turn up, and only follow him and his mate Darren, and join in the abuse. I have been in and out of hospital these last months, people who know me have spoken with me via skype from out of my hospital bed, Jimmy Jones now telling others I have scabies, in his words the scabies cow!!! my children have lost one mother to cancer, and this is killing them to see what people do to others.
You have been a star and an inspiration and it sickens us all that some people have to behave in such a childish and attention seeking way. Good luck Madlands we shall miss you and thank you for all that you have done and inspired us to do – keep safe.
Soooo glad to have found this comment from you! For I felt a bit let down after I saw your blog all gone – without me having downloaded your excellent Savile article!
This is to
1) commiserate: I blocked realjimmyjones from http://www.victims-unite.net where he was haunting me, too
2) share: a dear friend told me “it comes with the territory”, i.e. these misinformers / agents provocateurs are ‘just doing their job’
3) SALUTE you for not only having taken the initiative but also share the success so eloquently with your ‘final word’.
Should you be willing to share your Jimmy Savile article, please email it to sabine AT 3d-metrics dot com
Yours most gratefully,
Van: North Wales Police (OCD)
Datum: 01/27/13 19:58:46
Onderwerp: FW: P011148
You have been advised previously by DS Morgan to ‘block’ Jimmy Jones on your Twitter account and not correspond with him any further. It is obviously a matter for you to decide as to whether you choose to do this or not, but if you don’t, then the likelihood is that you will have further similar issues, which we will not be able to assist you with any further, and you would need to seek advice from a solicitor.
If you feel there are other issues which may require police action, then re-contact us once you are back at home following your discharge from hospital, and we will arrange for an officer to contact you then.
RegardsNorth Wales Police.
my email today to the police
with ref. P011148
The abuse continues, see attachment of his Mr Jone’s tweets this morning, this has been going on continually since January, not once have I reacted to one of his tweets, but my children are reading him and are getting very upset.
I have blocked him on twitter, but he continues searching topsy.com for my tweets, and using them playing his very dangerous but nevertheless childish game.
He is also telling everyone, that I reported him to you as being a Paedophile and running a so called paedophile ring. ALso I am supposed to have told you he was concealing evidence in an on going case of his with you.
None of this is true. My creditianls you have, you can check me out. I dont know who I am dealing with who is this James Jones, he professes to be a survivor of childhood sexual abuse.
Please do something about this person, I and others have already reported him to twitter. Maybe you can look in his computer to see who, if anyone is sending him threats to his children.
Please let me know the outcome,
You’ll have my support.
As a UK resident that might be helpful to you.
this is who I am, now let Jimmy Jones show us who he is
does he think they dont check out credentials of those who appear on their tv progs.???
That’s sad news indeed, I want to thank him for a great blog and wish him and his family all the best. When good people reveal the truth there will always be those who are afraid to hear it and try to prevent it coming out. It just proves how scared these morons are that they have to resort to threats and abuse, ride the waves people, we are many, they are few.
PS. Computer illiterate so not sure what an IP address is but I’m sure you can check mine too.
Shame. I also checked out his blog from time to time. I’m as genuine as they come, and have also suffered online bullying on my own “resident” forum of Toytown Germany. Send him my online regards.
I liked The Madlands blog, I hope he’s successful in whatever he chooses to do. If he’s been attacked, and this led to his shutting down his blog, shame on the trolls. Misty got it right, 10 fold returns.
I also feel sad to see him go, as do others I have spoken with, but not everyone is up to taking the abuse that many of us have to endure everyday on social networking sites. I belive in karma, and that what someone throws out they get back 10 fold.
I am on the firing line most days, I dont read what they are saying, but others do, including my children, and have been very upset as to what is being said about me as a person. Who the hell do these people think they are?? if we dont go along with what they think how crazy it is, we are labelled trols, liars, nutters, false ect. One has to note that those who do this hide behind various masks, and identities, something to hide? yes they do.
Keep up the good work my friend, together we will keep the dogs at bay
Enjoy your weekend, and stay safe xx
PS check out my IP address then you know its me
Yes, sad news indeed. Did anybody get a copy of his recent Savile article?
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Neither he nor you should worry about personal “attacks”, you are bound to make a few enemies but most, and probably all, of them will be paper tigers. On another note when is your somewhat over vaunted great revelation, hinted at under the next but one story below, going to be published? Whilst I can see the merits of building suspense from a publicity point of view I don’t think that holding these things back is particularly creditable.
To the extent that any story concerns a dead person you should note that, you cannot be sued for libel or slander by that person’s estate, the cause of action dies with the individual, there is or was a kind of criminal libel that did survive death but it is never used and in any event is a criminal not a civil matter. You can accordingly publish material concerning deceased persons with no regard for liability for defamation. In a very limited range of cases the offences connected with “trolling” could be used, but where an allegation of criminal conduct is supported by some sort of evidence which possesses a degree of credibility, however weak, and where that allegation is accordingly not mere abuse but material which raises a serious question those offences would not be a problem.
However you should note that you could be held liable for any defamatory material which you allow to remain on your blog, whether you have written it or not. You would be wise ,therefore, to moderate the comments added by others.
very sad to hear – although I have to admit I never accessed his website – keep your chin up Gojam – as my old mum used to say to me, “sticks and stones will…..”
I noticed yesterday that it had disappeared very sad. Along with NeedleB an interesting and balanced blog……Great shame.