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Down the Rabbit Hole with Luis Elizondo. Global Existential Crisis and UFO Cults.

Often we hear mention of Galileo, the most famous advocate of Copernican heliocentrism, who in June 1633 was found by the Catholic Church to be “vehemently suspect of heresy”, his book Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems was banned, and he was placed under house arrest for the rest of his life. This is rightly held up as one of the clearest and egregious examples of censorship by authority and bears fair comparison to the failure of the scientific and academic communities to investigate UFOs over that last 70 years and ridicule and ostracise anyone from these communities that did investigate. However, Like the Catholic Church before who genuinely believed Copernican heliocentrism to be false and heretical, the scientific and academic communities genuinely believed that UFOs were a fiction and therefore not a subject for serious scientic investigation. In this they were ignorant and close minded but they were not, for the most part, guilty of attempting to suppress information which they knew to be true. This can not be said to be a fair representation of the positions of governments of developed nations around the world, more specifically the Government of the USA, who have had plenty of evidence over the last 70 years to support the conclusion that UFOs are genuine, and this even if we exclude the very real possibility of recovered wreckage and exotic materials. Obviously, there is an imperative to restrict access to possible advanced technology that might aid national defence, or compromise it if an adversary were to attain it. In this case, it can be reasonably argued, the Government is acting responsibly to protect its citizens from a possible physical threat, however, this is not the case when it comes to the disclosure of the existence of UFOs, this is the deliberate supression of knowledge and an altogether different historical example of censorship might be more useful here.

Charles Darwin and his evolutionary tree sketch 1837

A more appropriate historical example of censorship which bears comparison to the failure to disclose evidence of the existence and reality UFOs would be the self-censorship of Charles Darwin. By July 1837, less than a year after HMS Beagle docked at Falmouth after a 5 year voyage, Darwin was already sketching out a new theory of evolution, this more than 22 years before the publication of On the Origin of the Species, 22 years of increasing internal mental conflict and stress which led to debiltating psychosomatic illness throughout the rest of his life all caused, not because he, and he alone, understood the mechanism of evolution but because he understood the consequences to a Victorian society built on Christian faith of his new theory. The very first person Darwin confides in is to his friend Joseph Hooker in a letter in which he compares it to confessing to murder.

“…I have been now ever since my return engaged in a very presumptuous work & which I know no one individual who wd not say a very foolish one… At last gleams of light have come, & I am almost convinced (quite contrary to opinion I started with) that species are not (it is like confessing a murder) immutable… I think I have found out (here’s presumption!) the simple way by which species become exquisitely adapted to various ends.— You will now groan, & think to yourself ‘on what a man have I been wasting my time in writing to.’— I shd, five years ago, have thought so.— I fear you will also groan at the length of this letter—excuse me, I did not begin with malice prepense. Believe me my dear Sir | Very truly your’s | C. Darwin

Letter to Joseph Dalton Hooker [11 January 1844]

Given that at this time evolutionary theories were considered synonymous with revolution, Jacobinism, and atheism, Hooker’s reply was cautiously encouraging, “There may in my opinion have been a series of… gradual change of species. I shall be delighted to hear how you think that this change may have taken place, as no presently conceived opinions satisfy me on the subject.” By the summer of 1844, 15 years before the publication of the Origins, Darwin had written an 189 page essay but instead of publishing he instead wrote a letter to his wife, Emma Darwin, to be opened on the occasion of his death. It reads “I have just finished my sketch of my species theory. If, as I believe that my theory is true & if it be accepted even by one competent judge, it will be a considerable step in science. I therefore write this, in case of my sudden death, as my most solemn & last request…” Darwin then gives instructions on how to get his essay published. Over the next 15 years Darwin is always working on his theory, expanding and refining it, he lets his wife in on his secret and one or two close friends get a glimpse but otherwise it is a heavy burden of self censorship that he takes upon himself. It was only when Darwin received a paper from Alfred Russell Wallace in June 1848 describing natural selection that his hand was forced and a joint presentation of both Darwin’s and Wallace’s theories at the Linnean Society.

In Hindsite we can see that society adapted to this new theory of evolution but it wasn’t without social convulsions. The established Church of England which underpinned many British institutions was rocked to its core until after a few decades it accepted and adopted evolution as a chosen mechanism of God. The principles of natural selection and survival of the fittest were used to justify empirial colonialism, eugenics, social policy, and capitalist economics but it didn’t destroy the fabric of society as Darwin had feared.

We’ve all seen the movie. There is an apocalyptic event on the way and its in the balance whether we’re going to pull through. Our leaders decide that we’re all too fragile to be told the truth. If we were to be told, society will break down, there’ll be riots in the streets, shops will be looted, nobody will show up to work, wanton debauchery and gratuitous violence will be widespread ; and so we’re all kept in the dark, it’s for our own good you see? The world’s governments can then hatch a plan in secret which may or may not involve firing the planet’s combined nuclear arsenal at something or building huge underground bunkers, we’ll all be told once the plan has failed but we’ll have enough time to “make peace with our god” and be with our loved ones at the end. Well, we’re now near the beginning of that movie but instead of facing an Extinction Level Event humanity is facing a global existential crisis and the expert decision makers do not think the public can handle it and the really worrying thing about this is – that they may be correct.

Soon after the public version of UAP report to Congress was released a Reddit user called Gambitx posted his take. See below. [Many thanks to Akam1129 for his help. Great person to follow on Twitter]

I have no doubt that this post is from a former US Government official as he claims because of the tone of the message as much as what is actually said. I don’t want to analyse the entire message, for the purposes of this post I’m only interested in point number 3. On the Report itself I’d only wish to remind readers of what I wrote in a previous post An Examination of the Factions in Opposition to UAP Disclosure that I believe the thrust of the well organised campaign which has been headed by Lue Elizondo since 2017 is to reassert democratic oversight and accountability and proper chain of command on the UAP issue and some disclosure to the public is a corollary of that effort. I would, however, take issue with what Gambit6x has to say about expectation management when it seems clear to me that some influential and connected people have been raising expectations about the report prior to its release because public expectation was, and still is, useful leverage. I’ve no problem with that but it is then a bit rich for some within the UFO Community to be superior and patronising to those who are disappointed by the reality of the report’s content.

3. What else is at stake? My take. The people’s state of mind. The general public is unpredictable and the government wants to spoon feed information on the subject in order to maintain calm and control of the situation. This allows them to ensure that there are no unexpected riots or revolutions.


Gambit6x doesn’t claim to have inside knowledge on this specific issue only an understanding of how government operates and how much of what he’s written is hyperbole is difficult to gauge. Nevertheless, it begs the question, what exactly could people become so agitated by? Why would the US Government think that the public needed protecting? I’d suggest three possibilities:

  • The certain knowledge that non-human beings with superior intelligence and technology exist.
  • The certain knowledge that the US Government, among others, have withheld information about UFOs for 70 years and mislead the public.
  • A global existential crisis as a result of a better understanding of reality gained after examining the science behind UAPs and related phenomena.

It is the last of these three possibilities that I want to look at in this post. I’m now going to be referencing a remarkable interview with Lue Elizondo by Curt Jaimungal on his youtube channel Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal What I really like about Curt Jaimungal’s work is that in much of it he is looking at the importance of consciousness and in that I think he is ahead of the curve on where understanding of UAPs may eventually lead us.

Lue Elizondo: “I don’t want to go down any rabbit holes prematurely… This is a very complex universe we’re living in, and it’s a system, and we’re learning more and more about the reality of life, and the transition of what birth means and the transition of what death means,… and human consciousness and human spirit… Suffice it to say, we probably don’t have a very good handle right now on what lies beyond our five senses”

Interview with Lue Elizondo by Curt Jaimungal

Just think about that statement for a moment and bear in mind this is coming from someone with double majors in Microbiology and Immunology and minors in Chemistry from the University of Miami, and a 20 year career in army intelligence, before heading AATIP. Lue Elizondo is not a hippy, he is a serious individual with a solid scientific background. The transitions of birth and death suggests a movement from one state to another. From an unknown state to birth and from death to an unknown state. This is the kind of language we’d normally expect in a spiritual context and not a scientific context. Before looking at another passage of the interview it is worth while noting the phrase “I don’t want to go down any rabbit holes prematurely” it suggests that it is too soon, that people need to get used to, and accept, the idea of UFOs before addressing these difficult issues but that is our ultimate destination. Here is some more from the interview in answer to this question from the Lonesome Space Cowboy; “If the general public knew, or saw what you saw, what would the next week look like? How would the people react?”

Lue Elizondo: Sombre… I think there would be this big exhale for about a day and then this turning inward and trying to reflect on what this means to us and our species, and ourselves… Sombre meaning serious, not like Hollywood portrays people partying in the streets and silliness like that. I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so, you might have some people turning away from religion. I think you’re going to have… at that point the philisophical and theological questions will be raised and people will have some serious soul searching to do, no pun intended. And I don’t think that’s bad, by the way. I think that a lot of folks that have spent their time in this community being charlatans will have been exposed and they will probably be unemployed, and probably have to change their names because, you know, the rest of society will look at them in an unfavourable light. I think there are some unsung heroes that will probably come to light and the world will appreciate their contributions to this topic. I think the scientific community and academic communities are going to have to take a real hard look at themselves and see why we repeated the same mistakes we did when Galileo first proposed that the Earth was not the centre of the solar system. Hubris is a big part of that. And then I think, you know, that we start the international conversations, say “OK, we realise that there are some things out there that are probably well beyond our petty discrepancies we have with each other, maybe we need to start working together on this and realise that we really are a global family” It doesn’t matter where you’re from, it doesn’t matter what your religion is, your culture or your colour is or anything else, we are all brothers and sisters on this tiny little rock called Earth, you know this pale blue dot that is hurtling through space.

Curt Jaimungal: It may unify us?

Lue Elizondo: Well , I would certainly hope so. Unless we allow our poor nature to interfer and we look at this as opportunities to subjugate each other. I would hope that’s not the case.

Interview with Lue Elizondo by Curt Jaimungal

Honestly, I could write an entire article just attempting to unpick that reply. I think the section, “people will have some serious soul searching to do, no pun intended.” is very interesting, why would we think it was a pun, it is a common enough phrase? This, along with the previous comments about transition to birth and from death and reference to “human consciousness and human spirit” is a glimpse into Elizondo’s thinking, If the general public knew what he knew we’d believe in the continuity of consciousness outside of life, something analogous to a soul. I’m darn curious to know who exactly Elizondo considers to be Charlatans, he specifies them initially as from within “this community” and so I first assumed he meant charlatans within the UFO community but then, them becoming unemployed, having to change their names, and having “the rest of society” think ill of them seems a little extreme. Having watched quite a few interviews with Lue Elizondo I don’t believe this is bitterness or nastiness towards those people who disagree with him. I get the impression that he’s a little irritated by these people and frustrated that they’re the cause of division within the UFO Community, as he views it, but the term Charlatan implies fraud and deceit not simply opposition. Alternatively, It could be that Elizondo is using the word community as a synonym of society in which case what could possibly incur those extreme consequences? I’m not going to attempt to guess who these people are because I don’t have a clue but if you know, or think you do, then please email me at or leave a comment below because I am very interested.

For those who haven’t read my previous post, ‘Thro’ Narrow Chinks of the Cavern’- Evolution, Quantum Mechanics, and Skinwalker Ranch. now might be the time to read it as some background because we are now re-entering the world of Skinwalker Ranch, a place where the paranormal is just undiscovered science. Skinwalker could lay claim to being the birth place of AAWSAP (Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program) sister program of AATIP. When a DIA agent, referred to as JL, wth PHD in physics and math visited Skinwalker Ranch in 2007.

“JL was in the living room of the former NIDS double wide observation trailer/staff quarters. A 3D object appeared in mid-air in front of him and changed shape like a changing topological figure. It went from pretzel-shaped to Möbius strip shaped. It was 3D and multi-colored. Then it disappeared.”

Dr Eric Davis – UfoJoe
A Möbius strip has a shape with only one side

Following this event JL would relate his experience to Senator Harry Reid who would meet with Senators Daniel Inouye and Ted Stevens. They agreed to provide funding for AAWSAP and then AATIP. JL would be Luis Elizondo’s predecessor as director of AATIP. So, AAWSAP and AATIP could be said to have been conceived following an apparition or materialisation before a DIA scientist at Skinwalker Ranch and so we must recognise that those most intimately involved with unravelling the science behind UAPs are inclined to do so in the context of larger scientific understanding of reality that can explain such apparitions as well as other phenomena alleged to have been witnessed at Skinwalker Ranch such as poltergeist like activity, telepathic messaging, invisible objects emitting destructive magnetic fields, inter-dimensional portals, and cryptozoology.

Lue Elizondo: I worked with colleagues that were focused on the AAWSAP and Skinwalker phenomena. What I can say is that they are very convinced and I think that I am too that there are things that probably go bump in the night that probably need further explanation… That was done with the tremendous efforts of Mr Bigelow and the former AAWSAP Director (JL) and a lot of folks at Bigelow Aerospace and the data was very compelling. I’ll say that, it was absolutely compelling.

Interview with Lue Elizondo by Curt Jaimungal
Can you name the actor and film?

I’ve been open about the fact that I’ve really only been delving into the topic of UAPs for about 6 weeks now. Of course, like a lot of people, I’ve had a passing interest in the subject and an occasional deeper foray when something piqued my interest. One of the first areas I naively looked into was what the intelligent beings that operated UAPs might have communicated to humans and thus I stumbled upon the phenomenon, whether genuine or cultural, of Contactees. I always begin looking at something with an open but sceptical mind and I accept that my research is very limited. My first thoughts after reading some of these messages was that a ‘contactee’ with a theological or philisophical outlook was likely to receive messages that confirmed this unconscious bias but then I had to acknowledge that I could be looking through the telescope the wrong way around and that if a form telepathic communication did exist, possibly assisted by technology which allowed communication between beings with different languages (like a babel fish) then such communication would have to utilise the limited concepts and vocabulary that the ‘contactee’ possessed and this might look like confirmation bias. Anyway, my point in raising the issue of contactees is not to make any argument for it, I remain an open minded sceptic but I want to note that many of the alleged contactee communications could be reinterpreted using some of the scientific concepts currently being used to explain UAPs and Skinwalker Ranch phenomena and appear surprisingly relevant. The scientic concept of vibrating strings in string theory and graduating to a new level of consciousness for example. If the religiousity and spirituality is stripped away does it still all look implausible ?

Here is a sample of different alleged contactee communications:

“We have aided many other planets within this general vibratory level. The aid is given to this level by us because we are, shall we say, at the next level of awareness, and are best able to communicate to those people who wish to enter into understanding which we share.”

“We have dealt with many planets who are beginning a new phase of vibration. We have aided many a graduating class, and we have done so successfully. We have also failed, not once but several times. It is completely possible for us to fail if it be the will of the people of the planet we are attempting to aid.”

“We come because we feel the desire that brings us here. And we give what aid we can to those who wish it. Our thoughts are available to those who desire them. However, we attempt to do this in such a way that no individual is ever in a position where he cannot accept or deny our thinking as he so pleases. Those who are vibrating within the level that will appreciate the information that we give surely recognize that which is truth.”

“At the present time, we are far behind where we had hoped to be at this point while helping planet Earth. We had hoped to have been much more successful at reaching the people of this planet. It is possible that there will be a smaller graduation than we had hoped.”

“Our purpose in coming at this time is to help speed up these reactions so you will be prepared for the change-over in the Earth’s frequency. This is taking place over a number of years.”

“Many of your people are being affected mentally and spiritually in a discomforting way, and some of them in a very spiritual way.”

“The program that is in operation is to prepare the Earth for a major rise in consciousness, to what you call Christ awareness but what we term communication with Universal Energy.”

“They are making themselves known to the world as a whole to lead mankind thereby into a New Age as the Earth enters the more intense vibrations of Aquarius.”

“To sum up just what Flying Saucers are, we would say that they are mechanical devices intelligently controlled by men like ourselves. These men originate from many planets and planes and although they are different from one another in spiritual evolvement…”

Secrets of the UFOs by Don Elkins With Carla Rueckert

As Lue Elizondo has stated previously the alleged phenomenon of contactees is extremely subjective. I’m inclined not to believe in contactee evidence myself but I think it would have been remiss of me not to mention it in the context of this article. What do you think? When we know that apparitions and telepathic communications have been investigated by scientists at Skinwalker Ranch and that such an apparition actually precipitated the creation of AAWSAP, is it time to look again at contactee evidence?

Regardless of whether contactees are genuine or not, they have had an undeniable cultural impact because it was as a direct consequence of the contactee movement that UFO religions and cults began to emerge.

When we look at the language I’ve quoted Lue Elizondo using above and the kind of science that is necessary to explain UAPs – a phenomena now acknowledged by the US Government – is it really so hard to see that a global existential crisis may be imminent and why the public might need to be protected?

Elizondo: “I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so, you might have some people turning away from religion.” What kind of religion will they turn to?

In my personal view UFO religions and cults fall into two catagories. The dangerous like Scientology and The Nation of Islam and the deadly, the suicide cults like Heaven’s Gate and the Order of the Solar Temple. All UFO religion/cults seem to me to involve an unholy interest in assuming a member’s wealth, coercion, isolating members from those outside the religion/cult, and a degree of brainwashing but the very worst of them are able to persuade members to commit crimes ranging from suicide, murder, to mass murder. Some even want to bring about an apocolypse.

This is a long post, my apologies. We began by looking at Charles Darwin who self-censored for at least 15 years because he was, in part, concerned about the consequences of his theory of evolution on the fabric of Victorian society and we’ve ended up, via some very thoughtful and thought provoking comments from Lue Elizondo, Skinwalker Ranch, and Contactee transcripts, at the end with UFO suicide cults.

You’ll recall above, after looking at the comment left by Gambit6x on reddit, I asked, Why the US Government might think that the public needed protecting?

Not everyone is going to cope with disclosure, and if Luis Elizondo is correct, it seems likely to me that not everyone is going to cope well if one day, in the not too distant future, a new reality is revealed to them and their entire belief system is destroyed. At times of great stress the fight or flight mechanism kicks in which in this case could translate into violent anger or fear and despair. Understanding the nature of reality doesn’t necessarily help us to adjust to it.

I’m not suggesting that there should be any censorship on this issue but I do hope that those that want disclosure can acknowledge that the bottom of this rabbit hole might be a very dark place for many people, especially those with pre-existing mental health problems.

Thank you once again if you reached the end. This is a longer post and I appreciate readers stying with it. Please share if you found it interesting or useful. Leave a comment if you want to add something that you think that other readers would find useful or email me at if you want me to correct something.

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‘Thro’ Narrow Chinks of the Cavern’- Evolution, Quantum Mechanics, and Skinwalker Ranch.

William Blake

“If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro’ narrow chinks of his cavern.”

William Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell.

Human Beings and every other living organism on Earth have adapted to survive in their niche within Earth’s environment. Human Beings do not have gills because we have not evolved to live under water and we do not have wings because we have not evolved to fly. Our ape antecedents shared a common ancestor with the chimpanzee and bonobo apes between 4 and 7 million years ago and because the environmental niche that those antecedents were exploiting was on the ground instead of in the trees and since they were more likely to be prey than predator they began to stand up on their hind legs an innovation which allowed them see the approach of danger. Increasingly our ape ancestor evolved bipedal locomotion which freed our hands to do far more interesting things than walking upon them and set us along a path towards experimentation, innovation, curiousity, and intelligence. However, one consequence of bipedalism was that their sense of smell, so important for animals with noses close to the ground, began to diminish which is why, dogs for example, have such a superior sense of smell compared to humans. A dog has 300 million olfactory receptors in it’s nose compared to the measly 3 million human beings possess and the part of a dog’s brain that is devoted to analysing smells is about 40 times larger than that of a human being.

A human being’s visual spectrum is within a frequency of 400–790 TeraHertz but many animals can see within the utraviolet range including birds, bees, butterflies, salmon, scorpions, hedgehogs, reindeer, and possibly even cats and dogs. Beyond the other end of our visual light spectrum, frogs, snakes, mosquitoes, bedbugs, and fish can see in the infrared range and with regards to visual acuity, if you have 20/20 vision, it means that when you stand 20 feet away from the chart you can see what a normal human being can see. A hawk, on the other hand, might have 20/2 vision meaning that it can see from 20 feet what a human can see from 2 feet.

Whereas adult humans can detect sounds in a frequency range from about 20Hz to 20kHz. Elephants can hear between 16Hz to 12,000Hz and cats between 45Hz to 64,000Hz. Dolphins, bats, and moths can all hear well within the ultrasonic range. Whales, octopus, pigeons, hippopotamuses, and rhinoceroses can all hear within the infrasonic range.

As you can see our perception of the world is quite narrow and this isn’t even taking into account the sense that we do not even have but that some other animals do like the magnetic field sensors that turtles, birds, and wolves possess or electric field detectors that sharks, rays, and skates have. Finches are tetrachromatic, meaning the can see more colours than we humans do, while flies see the world in slow motion because their flicker fusion rate, how fast a light has to be turned on and off before it’s perceived a continuous light, up to 400, whereas a human beings flicker fusion rate averages around 60.

As the most intelligent species on Earth, the apex predator, the supreme adapter it is easy to forget that human beings have evolved within an environmental niche that is as bounded by the limits of our perception as it is by the sky above us or the water’s edge. Sure, we have invented machines that allow us to fly or travel beneath the waves, our technological advancements allow us to perceive beyond our visible light spectrum or our natural hearing range but this shouldn’t stop us from acknowledging the narrowness of environmental niche that we have evolved to be adapted to and that there are environments outside of that niche that other animals exploit and are adapted to. Furthermore, it shouldn’t stop us from acknowledging that there may be environmental niches on Earth able to sustain life, possibly even intelligent life, that we are completely incapable of perceiving or even imagining.

Imagine a reality within which there is no order, a reality with no time. There are only snapshots of every possible combination of particles without any heirarchy. It is extremely difficult because we human beings experience reality in 4 dimensions, 3 spacial and 1 temporal, we have evolved to survive in that niche. Experiencing reality in more dimensions might make other niches available to us but that might inhibit our ability to exploit the niches currently available to us in 4 dimensions, in exactly the same way that our antecedents’ sense of smell diminished when they began to stand upright, there is very likely a trade off. To help picture this other reality imagine a jar of M&Ms. In this simplistic illustration each M&M represents a particle and pictured above is just one snapshot, one possible combination of particles. Now try to conceive the idea of the billions of different possible combinations of particles all existing without order or heirarchy. Not like a pack of cards, one atop the other, nor like a stream of images like a movie both of these are ordered heirarchical concepts but each existing in the same space, each possibility equal to the others. Now, in the picture above, you’ll see a green M&M near the middle about 3 from the bottom. I want you to imagine that this M&M has intelligence equal to our own and it has evolved to experience reality in 4 dimensions just like you do. That M&M can not cope with the chaos it observes around it and so it orders reality around it in order to survive. That M&M decides to make its way to the top of the jar and it does two things. It selects one of the most probable possible combinations, from the billions that exist, that moves it upwards while ordering the other observable particles in the jar so that they are not jumping all over the place and doing things that do not fit in with it 4 dimensional concept of reality. The other thing the green M&M does is it selects a sequence of possible combinations to explain how it got to where it is in the first place. From a reality with no order or heirarchy only billions of possibilities, our intelligent green M&M has created order, time, and memory within its observable experienced version of reality.

Many years ago when I first started this blog and took the name gojam, I chose for my avatar the single drop radiating waves. This for me symbolised the tiny moment within infinite existence within which I exist and the waves of observation, comprehension, influence, and stability which I radiate but the second image above is how I believe reality can be imagined, billions of drops, representing the billions of human beings, radiating out interacting and interferring, creating a field of order, heirarchy, and stability through our intelligence, comprehension, and observation within a multi-dimensional reality which otherwise has none of these.

The video below explains the ‘smoking gun’ of quantum mechanics, the double slit experiment. It is only included for those not familiar with it or as a quick recap. It explains probability waves and how those wave functions collapse when observed.

Unobserved, the particle forms a probability wave because it occupies every possible space that it could be simultaneously but when observed, specifically observed by an intelligence that has evolved to survive within a 4 dimensional version of reality, the probability wave function collapses and the particle takes one path as if forced to conform with our conception of reality and there is no way of gaming this experiment. It can appear as if the particle not only knows what you’re doing but knows what you are going to do as if it is exhibiting ‘precognitive behaviour’ (a term that I noticed was used often in the documentary ‘Hunt for the Skinwalker’)

This is all theory though, right? All on a quantum level, it doesn’t effect the real world that we human beings have evolved to live in? Actually not so. It turns out that the process of photosynthesis, a process which is the foundation upon which almost all life on Earth is either directly or indirectly dependent on utilises quantum coherence to work. as the short video below explains for photosynthesis to achieve the near 100% efficiency needed for it to work, any single photon must take every possible path to the reaction centre at the same time.

We human beings can readily accept that we have evolved to occupy a niche within our planet’s environment and to that end our sight, hearing, smell, and other senses are limited in comparison to other animals which have evolved to exploit different niches but what if the natural evolved limits to our perception are far more profound and we are unable to perceive other dimensions? What if other lifeforms have evolved to exploit niches within those dimensions?

On to Skinwalker Ranch…

It didn’t take me too long, once I began to look into AATIP, before I came across the many connections to Skinwalker Ranch. AASWAP, Robert Bigelow, Dr. Eric Davis, Former Senator Harry Reid, Hal Puthoff, George Knapp, and Jeremy Corbell all have direct connections between Skinwalker Ranch and the current campaign for UAP disclosure, I’ve no doubt that some readers will be aware of more connections. Very relunctantly, because of this clear connection, I have watched Hunt for the Skinwalker and The Curse of Skinwalker Ranch Season 1 which amounts to aproximately 5 hours of my life that I will never get back. I found it all thoroughly unconvincing, especially the series. Nevertheless, I have to accept that these are people I’m inclined to believe with regard to UAPs and have far more information on Skinwalker Ranch than I do. This poses a dilemma for me. On the one hand, it forces me to look seriously at the claims regarding Skinwalker Ranch while on the other it makes me question the UAP disclosure campaign they are involved in. For the purposes of this post I’m going to suspend my own objections but I’m uncomfortable enough about it that I’m putting it on the record here.

For those unaware, Skinwalker Ranch is located in the Uintah basin and borders a Ute Indian Reservation. There have been reports of many different types of alleged paranormal activity there including: UFOs, cattle mutilations, bigfoot, poltergeist activity, apparitions, telepathic messaging, interdimensional portals, and the Skinwalker, a shape shifting entity which, it is said, stalks the land following a Navejo shamen’s curse and for which the ranch is named. So, in other words a large number of very serious people involved with the AATIP and the UAP disclosure campaign also seem to believe in an awful lot of very weird shit.

There seems to me to be two ways an organism can become inter-dimensional, defined here as the ability to move between our 4 dimensions and others that we are unable to interact with or perceive; the first has evolved within the 4 dimensions that we experience and has advanced intelligence and the capability to develop technology that allows them to interact with extra-dimensions. Of the phenomena that is alleged to have been witnessed at Skinwalker Ranch the observation of craft UAPs and telepathic communication either through language or apparitions seems to me to require intelligence. I’m not going to look at intelligent beings using inter-dimensional UAPs to visit Earth here other than to acknowledge it as a possibility. The second way an organism can become inter-dimensional is if it has evolved to have that ability, in which case it need not necessarily be intelligent. Neither a Bigfoot type creature nor a Skinwalker type creature need be intelligent and technologically advanced they both need only to have evolved the ability to exploit extra-dimensions; possibly to hide from predators or the better to predate on other creatures. Cattle mutilations and poltageist-like activity might be the acts of intelligence but not necessarily. Only the fact that we are not able to perceive the cause of these actions sets it apart from activity that we already understand. If a creature we could see mutilated a cow, shut a door, or carried an object into a tree we would not assume that it was intelligent. As for the apparent precognitive behaviour that some at Skinwalker Ranch have suggested this might simply be the function of extra-dimensions in which time is experienced as non-linear or just like in the results of the double slit experiment mentioned above, variations of which can appear precognitive, we, as intelligent beings that have evolved within 4 dimensional space/time, are simply unable to observe or directly interact with these extra-dimensional creatures. This would mean that these creatures might appear to be outsmarting us, avoiding being caught in increasingly cunning traps but in reality any attempt at observing them collapses the probability wave function and the creature is no longer where we are looking.

A few months ago I listened to an In Our Time podcast on The Late Devonian Extinction and I was struck by the part of the discussion about how plant life began to colonise the land. At the beginning of the Devonian Period, 419.2 million years ago there was very little life on land, there may have been fungi but no plant life. Early plants, single stem, without roots, and rather like liverwort or moss today kept very close to the water, in part because there was virtually no soil on the rocky land. Through an achingly slow process of chemical/biological weathering by plants and mechanical/environmental weathering by the wind and water soil began to be produced and plants, developing roots along the way, encroached further and further inland. By the end of the Devonian Period 60.3 million years later vast forests, roots deep in abundant soil, filled the land while crustaceans began to occupy and exploit the new environmental niches that had opened up and evolved to become the first insects, even developing flight. The plant life consumed huge amounts of carbon dioxide, excreting oxygen, and cooling the planet. This climate change caused a mass extinction which would open up newly available environmental niches that would be exploited by newly evolved species – including by our antecedents.

Is it possible that life could evolve on Earth in extra-dimensions that we humans are unaware of ? If there is an environmental niche that can be occupied and exploited, life will find a way.

Like everyone else I’m looking forward he report to US Congress on UAPs. Hopefully there’ll be more to ponder soon.

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An Examination of the Factions in Opposition to UAP Disclosure

Before I start I’d just like to thank all those people who were kind enough to share my last post. If I’m honest this blog has been dormant for a few years and I was a little concerned that nobody would read it and so I’m very grateful to readers who said complimentary things about it and shared it with others. Many thanks!

“When I was contacted by the New York Times, they said they wanted to do a story on UFOs and the money you got, the $22 million. And I said I am happy to do that story, as long as we are not talking about little green men. If you want to talk about science, I’m all in. And that is how I looked at this.”

Former Senator Harry Reid

There seems to be little doubt that an effort is being made to rebrand a certain kind of phenomena. Out go UFOs and ‘Little Green Men’, and in come UAPs and Non-Human Entitities (NHE) or’Not From Here’ and I think this speaks to how well organised this disclosure process is being managed despite the quasi-insurgent nature of the insider movement towards responsible disclosure. It would appear that such a movement has either not existed, or failed to successfully organise, in the previous 70 years and so it seems reasonable to ask why that is and why it is now having some success.

Before continuing I should just admit that this is obviously just my take. I do not consider myself to be an expert in any way, shape, or form. If I’m wrong then I welcome corrections either in the comments below or privately by email at I’m just one person attempting to make sense of the current and past ‘UFO’ Chessboard.

…I think for some people… it was too much of a pill to swallow. I remember distinctly given a briefing to one senior and after having the pilots there and all the evidence and reporting, at the end of the day he just couldn’t process it… Some individuals have a problem with this topic because it conflicts with their philisophical or maybe theological belief system.

Luis Elizondo

Luis Elizondo goes on to tell the story, in this interview with The Basement Office (Part 1) of a senior Pentagon official who wanted Elizondo to stop looking at UFOs because, as he said, they were demonic.

When I first heard these comments I thought that Luis Elizondo was telling a couple of the more extreme examples of opposition that he faced while director of AATIP. I now believe that Elizondo was actually using these examples to illustrate the two broad factions that have existed for a while on this subject and constitute the two factions that are currently roadblocks to disclosure. Elizondo suggests that the first group are overwhelmed by the reality of UAPs, we’ll be kind and call these people sceptics, people who might dismiss or even ridicule the entire possibility of UFOs. The second broad grouping are fundamentalist Christians who believe that UFOs have a demonic anti-Christian origin. Until I understood that these two factions had dominated the USA’s official response to UFOs since the 1950s, I couldn’t grasp how a cover-up of such a colossal magnitude could have taken place. I was familiar with Eisenhower’s warning about the military/industrial complex…

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military/industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

President Eisenhower Jan 17th 1961

I can recognise that the military/industrial complex might provide a shadow environment within which a cover-up could evolve and mature but what about those involved? We could call them Men in Black for ease. I think any reasonable person would be sceptical that a 70 year conspiracy to cover-up the existence of UFOs which must have necessitated the involvement of thousands has been the reality but what if individuals were either vetted for their religious beliefs to ensure that their interpretation of the UFO phenomena would be demonic before disclosure? If this group, almost like a secret society, inducted only fundamentalists Christians and had a conscious or unconscious bias promotng their own within various government organisations, then this would act as a powerful mechanism for creatingA very loyal, secretive, and heirarchical faction within government. I’d suggest that a sincere believer would always put their God first before their country regardless of how patriotic they are, it is one of the reasons why Western Democracies do not ask citizens to choose between the two.

Richard Dolan: A number of years ago, Nick Redfern wrote a book about the so-called Collins Elite, which s essentially what he defined was a group of religious Christian, perhaps evangelical Christians within military that see UFOs as demonic. Now is that what you’re kind of referring to, indirectly?

Lue Elizondo: That’s precisely what I’m referring to. Look, radicalismis radicalism. It doesn’t atter if it’s Islam or Christianity, or Judaism or anything else.

Richard Dolan: So there’s a certain percentage of people within the military and intel community who do believe in UFOs but they think that they’re demonic entities. That’s essentially…

Lue Elizondo: Yes…

Richard Dolan, Luis Elizondo interview. Transcript UfoJoe

So, we’re left with two broad groups of people, those that are overwhelmed by, or perhaps sceptical of, the subject of UFOs and those who take a Christian fundamentalist position on UFOs. When you think about it, it really isn’t difficult to guess which of these two broad groupings engaged with the UFO subject and which wanted nothing to do with it and, as a consequence, which grouping came to dominate the secret research and the distribution of any findings.

Above, Richard Dolan mentions The Collins Elite, which according to Nick Redfern’s book, FINAL EVENTS and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife, was the unofficial name of a group of fundamentalist Christians within government who investigated UFOs and paranornal activity with the perspective that they had a demonic origin and that this group was formed when Project Blue Book was terminated, so around Dec 17th 1969. In this fairly recent Open Minds Interview with Nick Redfern the author suggest that there were two porous groups that he had become aware of. The first was looking at demonology and attempting to weaponise it for the US military and the second were investigating UFOs, believed that they had a demonic origin, and that disclosure would lead to Armageddon. That the Roswell crash was a demonic false flag, an attempt by dark forces to seduce mankind and lure them into exploring avenues that would lead to the opening of portals which would allow the demons into our world. As a result many, but by no means all, in this group were fanatically opposed to the disclosure of existence UFOs. This is a simplistic synopsis but I think it is a fair summary.

I’m suggesting that this is just one small sub-group within the US Government and not one of the 4 larger Secret Access Programs involving private companies related to UFO/UAP research that have been speculated about but The Collins Elite is a possible window into the philosophy and theology of other groups.

“The following is conjecture. Sources tell me that this is merely the tip of the iceberg. A group of four related, but separate, unacknowledged SCI programs tracing back to a 1947 Truman memorandum still exist and were housed, as of the 1990s, in major aerospace companies such as, for example: Lockheed, TRW, Raytheon, Aerospace Corp. etc. These would be expensive programs since the cost of secrecy can be several times higher than the research. The [AATIP] program has no relation to these four, much better funded, deep black ones. Indeed, the black programs collectively have budgets in the $10B ranch and up. Topics apparently include both reverse engineering and extraterrestrial biology…”

Astrophysicist Bernard Haisch, PhD, 2018 (I can’t identify original source for this quote)

I’m going to posit that for much of the last 70 years the official research and response to UFOs in the USA was undertaken by a loose faction of fundamentalist Christians if only because these were, more or less, the only people prepared to engage with the subject but that over the last 20 years at least, as our understanding of the science that might explain the phenomena has improved, another faction has emerged. I’ll call this faction Agnostics, not because they are necessarily theologically agnostic individuals but because they are agnostic with regards to the relationship between UFOs and religion. An Agnostic does not dismiss that there may be a connection between UFOs and religion but does not assume that there is. These people take a scientific approach to the subject. As scientific understanding has improved this faction has grown and they’ve discovered that the fundamentalist Christian faction is unwilling to relinquish their control over the subject.

My best guess is that at some point, certainly by the time former Senator Harry Reid took an interest but possibly before that, serious and legitimate concerns began to be raised regarding the democratic accountability of US Govenment funded Secret Access Programs related to UAPs/UFOs and that AATIP, responsible to the Executive Branch and not the DoD, was an effort to reassert democratic oversight over an area of research which, on the one hand, due to US military’s technological improvements was providing increasingly better data and, on the other hand, due to a more sophisticated understanding of the science that may be related to the phenomena was suggesting alternative, possibly more rational, explanations.

However, it doesn’t look like AATIP got very much cooperation. Once again, this from Luis Elizondo’s interview on The Basement Office embedded above., Steven Greenstreet asks about whether there was proactive suppressing or limiting of what Elizondo (AATIP) could do because of theological conflicts on the subject of UFOs within the Pentagon, he responds

“I had to be very careful. I really had to operate in the shadows more than ever. I was used to doing it because of my job [USAISA] but I wasn’t used to running operations inside my own organisation but that is what we had to wind up doing because there were people who were certainly against this effort and only because of their, again, philisophical belief system…”

The Basement Office

“…The AATIP did find the UFO crash retrieval program, via official channels, but was denied access to it because the AATIP itself is not a SAP. Senator Harry Reid petitioned the DoD to confer SAP status to the AATIP but the DoD denied his request.”

Astrophysicist Bernard Haisch, PhD, 2018 (I can’t identify original source for this quote)

I’ll speculate that at some point Luis Elizondo and Senator Harry Reid, among many others with a simiar ‘agnostic’ mindset, became so frustrated by the bureaucracy within which these factions had become entrenched that a plan was hatched to push the subject out into the open. I’ll again speculate that the preparation for this began before Luis Elizondo’s resignation with the declassification of some data so that Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) Requests could lawfully retrieve information and put it into the public domain. The actual reason for Elizondo’s resignation from AATIP, that the Secretary of Defence, General Mattis, was not being briefed on what Elizondo considered a potential national securirty threat though I’m sure was genuine, also gave him and those that support him in his role as both spokesman and lightening rod, very solid ground from which to proceed.

I’m not going to go over all the leaks and informed FOIA requests that have followed Elizondo’s 2017 resignation , It has been a competent and well-prepared campaign which has wrong footed the bureaucracy and factions. I do suggest people read this article on The Debrief ‘Inspector General Will Have a Critical Role in the ‘UFO Mystery’ which gives valuable insights into how the bureaucracy is struggling to adjust. I think that although some disclosure that doesn’t prejudice US National Security is going to be the result, it is important to bear in mind that the thrust of this campaign is democratic oversight and accountability It coopts the public with its promise of disclosure but it serves a greater public good by empowering and informing their elected representatives. I’ll make a prediction here. I expect that there will be more leaks and informed FOIA requests going forward and more considered reports to come. This Pentagon Report, both the Public one and the more comprehensive one to Congress, is an important waypoint for this disclosure campaign but not a final destination. Woe betide those that attempt to mislead Congress or withhold information from them. My prediction is that that would be a foolish and costly mistake. As this article by Christopher Mellon Questions for Congress Regarding the Pending UAP Report demonstrates, Congress will not be short of extremely informed individuals more than happy to point out any oversights.

I’d like to circle back and look again at the Richard Dolan interview with Luis Elizondo. It really is a very good interview which I recommend without reservation. Richard Dolan is very impressive. I’ve watched a few of his videos and I really like the way he thinks, he’s objective with an extraordinary depth of knowledge. I’m using the transcript on which is a fantastic resource . At the point where there is a discussion about the fundamentist Christian faction Elizondo makes a concerted, and I believe sincere, defence of them. He also suggests a legal amnesty for those responsible for withholding information on UAPs in the past. I think there are two reasons for this. The first is strategic, as Sun Tzu remarked in The Art of War “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.” and I think that Elizondo is attemping to give those who oppose disclosure an honourable and painless exit from the conflict. The second reason why he’s being so generous is for a reason that, as someone who has only been looking at this for a month or so, seems incredible and a little disturbing and that is that the difference between a demon who emerges from a portal and is able to telepathically message a person or bring forth a vision and an inter-dimensional entity who emerges from a portal and is able to telepathically message a person or bring forth a vision is determined by the philisophical perspective somebody has.

I think for now that is a good place to stop. To go further would mean to look at Skinwalker Ranch and Quantum physics and that would result a post twice as long as this one. I will say that I much prefer my UAPs to be operated by Extraterrestrials who might use a wormhole to get here rather the weirder stuff but I’ve no idea where this process of disclosure will lead,

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Luis Elizondo,Warp Bubbles, and the Shape, Utility, and Propulsion of UAPs

As almost everyone must be aware by now The Pentagon are due to publish a report to Congress on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) on or around 25th June and so we should all know a great deal more about the subject within the next few weeks. I wouldn’t want to claim any expertise on this subject, I know that for many the subject of UFOs and UAPs has been an area of intense research for many years, even decades, however, I would like to share some of my thoughts and observations on this subject as I hope you’ll share some of yours in the comments below.

For those unaware who Luis Elizondo is, he worked for Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) since 2008 and was director from 2010 until he resigned in 2017. Despite what looks like a campaign to discredit him, his credentials with AATIP have now been officially confirmed, as has AATIP’s role in investigating UAPs.

As well as collecting and analysing UAP data, AATIP also commissioned a number of scientific studies, the research titles of 38 of which were published following a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request in 2019, which can be viewed in full HERE but include papers on “Warp Drive, Dark Energy, and the Manipulation of Extra Dimensions“, “Invisibility Cloaking” and “Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy”. With this in mind, and given his previous access to highly classified data and these scientific studies, it is rather safe to say that Luis Elizondo is in as good a position as anyone to speculate about how UAPs work. However, this is something he rarely does.

This article will focus on a couple occasions in recent interviews where Luis Elizondo has speculated about what UAPs, specifically the so-called ‘tic tac’ UAPs, are and how they work but before I do I want to first clarify what exactly is at stake and why Luis Elizondo, The Pentagon, and others with knowledge about UAPs will be withholding important information on this topic.

UAPs are real and have been acknowledged as such by The Pentagon. Official internal US military reports demonstrate that UAPs have been observed for at least 70 years . Furthermore, Luis Elzondo told Bill Whitaker on 60 Minutes

Imagine a technology that can do 6 to 7 hundred G forces, that can fly at 13 thousand miles an hour,that can evade radar,and that can fly through air, and water, and possibly space; and by the way has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces, and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth’s gravity. That’s precisely what we’re seeing.

60 Minutes

UAPs have been reported near sites associated with nuclear power, weaponry and technology since 1948 at least and there are reports from former US military sources of UAPs disabling nuclear weapons in silos and downing nuclear capable missiles while being tested.

Regardless, of any hedges The Pentagon might express to the contrary, UAPs are certainly not early 21st Century human technology, let alone mid 20th Century human technology.

Every human scientific or technological advance to this point has been made blind but for the very first time the characteristics of a technological advancement have been observed before humans understand it and knowing that something is possible is a huge advantage. That prior and certain knowledge of a technological advance’s existence can inform the direction and parameters of scientific enquiry.

At some point in the future a nation on Earth will recreate, either entirely or in part, UAP technology and whichever nation does will have the power to shape how human society is organised. If China or Russia develop UAP technology first then they could impose an authoritarian regime across the planet. If the USA recreates UAP technology first, with democracy, individual freedoms, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press not only enshrined in its constitution but running through its cultural DNA; then it could defend its values around the world and despite the worrying emergence of Big Tech Oligarchs increasingly wishing to exploit their power to inhibit freedoms and influence democracy, nevertheless I know which nation I’d prefer to develop UAP technology first and so noone should be surprised if Luis Elizonda and others with highly classified insights regarding how these UAPs actually work do not share that information with the general public… and Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran. The only surprise is that given what is at stake, not only a defence capability that makes current weaponry obsolete but also a cheap, clean, stable, and abundant energy source and viable, affordable access to off planet resources, why the USA doesn’t have The Manhatten Project Mark 2 already under way.

Let’s move on to the science which for obvious reasons will be speculative and sketchy. First let’s look at what Luis Elizondo has to say about how UAPs may be powered in The New York Post’s The Basement Office interview (Part 1)

It has been proposed that… water may be some sort of simplistic fuel source. When you look at what water is comprised of, primarily hydrogen and oxygen… if you wanted to get a yield of energy cracking the atom is one way of doing it and the smaller you go into the world of the atom the more tightly that energy is packaged within the atom and the sub-atomic particles with the atom. And so, if you want to warp space/time some have theorised that you need a lot, a lot of energy. There’s two ways to warp space/time, a lot of mass or a lot of energy, and it turns out that you need a lot, a lot of energy to do it. And if one wanted to harness that energy perhaps one of the most efficient ways is through hydrogen.

In The New York Post’s The Basement Office interview with Luis Elizondo (Part 2) In answer to a question regarding ‘Warp Bubbles’ from (the excellent) Steven Greenstreet, Luis Elizondo responds,

There is a delta within the space/time construct compared to the external environment in which a lot of the observations we see as seemingly extraordinary really aren’t. They are rooted in some of the relativity principles that Einstein proposed in that if you werte inside this bubble travelling, what appears to us this incredible capability to manoeuvre at hypersonic speeds and instantaneous acceleration, and yes even low observability; in fact if you were inside that bubble looking out the rest of the world would be going by in slow motion. And so it’s not really… it’s that weird duality where both are actually occurring. Both our existence in this time and the relaivity of being in this localised environment where you are insulated where you are not… where the way we experience space/time there’s a delta, it’s different.

Now, it is clear that Luis Elizono is speculating but he is doing so with the benefit of far more information than we have including those 38 scientific studies that AATIP commssioned. I think it is safe to say that Luis Elizondo’s best assessment is that UAPs are powered by some kind of advanced nuclear reactor which powers technology that can create field of warped space/time around it. I’m going to come back to this later but before moving on I think it is worth noting that Luis Elizondo becomes very reticent in this interview when asked whether AATIP had access to physical UAP material (watch from 7 minutes). I’ve watched many of his interviews and this is the only time I’ve seen him uncomfortable, he’s shifting, almost squirming in his seat, caught between his natural default truthful attitude when doing interviews on this subject and the restraints of his security clearance. Really great interviewing from Steven Greenstreet, Elizondo’s unconscience reaction speaks louder than words.. You make up your own mind after watching it but in my opinion, and I’ve always dismissed this until this point, the USA does have physical evidence, exotic material connected to UAPs.

Moving on now to UAP expert and Youtuber Max Moszkowicz who recently did an interview with Luis Elizondo and who elicited new information on what I’m going to describe as the possible multi-warp bubble nature of some UAPs. As an expert on the subject Max Moszkowicz asks a great question and recognises straight away that the reply is new information, or more accurately new informed speculation from Luis Elizondo. The full interview video is below but the extract I’m quoting from is from 50 minutes.

Max Moszkowicz: Are there differences in behaviour traits or skill sets depending on the shape of the UAP? For example is a tictac different from a disc or an orb different from a triangle? Are they from the same source or do they seem completely different?

Luis Elizondo: …clearly there are differences but they’ll be utilising the same or similar technologies and the differences between a disc versus a rod, or if you will, a cigar shape and that versus a triangular or even a boomerang may simply be the result of the propulsion that is being used and the intent and purpose of the vehicle… Let’s say that the warping of space/time in a localised area is finite. Let’s say that you have this bubble that can only be so big… For arguments sake let’s say 43 feet, you can only fit a certain size automobile inside that bubble, a vehicle right… If you were to have this bubble… and create a car that this bubble was surrounding you on all equal sides, the shape of the car you would want to make sure that you were uniformly fitting inside this bubble is a sphere because the bubble is a sphere but a two dimensional representation is a disc and if you’re driving in a car that is shaped like a disc in this bubble that you want to protect you on all sides equally a disc would be a perfect way to do this. So, think of a Corvette. You can fit two people in a Corvette… you can go really fast but let’s say a corvette isn’t big enough. Let’s say you need a school bus. You need a lot of people to fit in and you need a lot of equipment. Well, you could put two of these discs together and have these, if you will, overlapping bubbles. But two discs together… you have now a cigar. Those two diiscs, you could have a propulsion unit here and here [gestures either end of the cigar] now all of a sudden you’ve got these two bubbles that are still protecting you equally… There’s another shape in geometry that if you needed something really big… like an aircraft carrier let’s say a triangle.[Luis Elizondo proceeds to draw out what he’s been describing]

I think a useful analogy here may one of mankinds first inventions, the wheel. As everyone knows wheels are simple machines for reducing the force of friction. Dragging something over rough ground is hard work, but wheels make it much easier by allowing the object to roll along. With one wheel I could make a wheelbarrow and transport quite alot of rocks but too many rocks it might become unstable and I might add a second wheel. More rocks still and a third wheel might be necessary then a fourth the more weight I carry the more wheels I need to reduce he friction.

Luis Elizondo suggests a maximum diameter of the Warp Bubble at a suspiciously specific but possibly mischievous 43ft. The formula for the volume of a sphere is V = 4/3 πr³ which would mean the volume of a Warp Bubble with a diameter of 43ft would be 41629.77ft³. Regardless of whether 43ft is accurate and based on classified data and observations or not, there would likely come a point when it is more efficient and stable to have another Warp Bubble than continue to increase the power needed to expand one Warp Bubble’s diameter.

The three images below, nicknamed Acorn, Sphere, and Blimp, were captured by the rear-seat weapons system officer of an F/A-18 fighter jet on March 4th 2019 and have been confirmed to be genuine by a Pentagon spokesperson All three images were captured within a 32 minute window. In his article at Mystery Wire, (link block to Europe) journalist George Knapp reported that the photos show three separate objects. For more information about this encounter see The Debrief

The first thing I’d like to note is that there are almost certainly more images connected to this event as well as eyewitness accounts and radar data which confirm that these were three seperate UAPs and their 3D shape. Without that extra data it would be a bit of a reach to describe the first image as an acorn and the second as a sphere so let’s assume that the data exists and the descriptive nicknames are broadly apt. Once this is accepted there should be a glaring revelation, these are all shapes that are ideal for withstanding high pressure. Much of mankind’s deep sea exploration has been in diving bells (acorn shaped) and Bathyspheres (spheres) and there is a very good reason butane tanks are shaped the way that they are. Each of these three forms are perfect for resisting high pressure.

Now, here is what I find interesting. If we assume that Luis Elizondo’s, admittedly speculative but well informed, best assessment is correct, and that some kind of advanced nuclear/quantum hydrogen reactor is powering technology that creates a warp bubble in the manner he describes above, then I don’t believe a form able to resist hign pressure is necessary. Theoretically, there would be the pressure, gravity, and atmosphere present within the warp bubble that there was when and where the warp bubble was created. Form would be almost irrelevant within the bubble because the bubble insulates the craft from pressure, drag, and gravity. The bubble and it’s contents effectively have zero mass relative to the exterior environment. If I’m correct then you could actually take the Corvette that Luis Elizondo spoke of to illustrate his theory, retrofit the Warp Bubble technology and off you could go. You might have to take precautions against radiation and ensure an oxygen supply but structurally you’d have a rather cool Corvette UAP.

Now clearly I’m not an expert or a scientist and readers might be tempted to suggest that I’m completely wrong and the pressure resistant form is a necessary prerequisite for a vehicle using Warp Bubble technology but I would point out that Triangles, Boomerangs, Pyramids, and Discs are not the best form for resisting hign pressure. Perhaps, these craft have different uses. Perhaps, the Acorn, Sphere, Blimp, and Tic Tac; assuming the Blimp and Tic Tac are not the same design, are subtly different submersible UAP, or USP (Unidentified Submersible Phenomena). Yet that raises another question, why would a pressure resistant form be needed, even in the deepest ocean as long as you have a Warp Bubble insulating you from the high pressure?

I’ve no answer to that. Perhaps you do? In which case leave a comment of email me at

The Triangles, Boomerangs, and Discs are better forms for flight and I’ve heard Christopher Mellon Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence speculate that the Triangles might be engaged scanning, surveying, or mapping; this because often they have been observed moving back and forth in a slow grid-like pattern over a specific area and noting that triangles (Triangulation) are an ideal shape for mapping.

Finally and very quickly I want to touch on the propulsion of UAPs. As I’ve said above relative to the exterior environment the contents of the warp bubble would act like it had no mass. It would be like the puck in a 3D game of Air Hockey. The very lightest force would see it fly off. An object can be pushed or pulled and I’d suggest that these bubbles are being drawn in whichever direction is desired by vacuum. It wouldn’t take very much energy to do this. It wouldn’t need huge vacuums because the Warp Bubble’s movement is frictionless. Nature abhors a vacuum as the saying goes and by using small vacuums in each direction like bouyancy tanks the warp bubble would rush forward as long as the vacuum in that direction existed and stop on a dime by creating a braking vacuum. Without gravity, friction, air compression, or water displacement; the means of propulsion would require very little energy in comparison to that which is necessary to create and maintain the warp bubble itself.

Anyway we’ll all find out more soon enough. I hope there are some readers that have reached the end! Thank you if you did. Let me know what you think Do you agree with any of my points or do you have a different opinion?

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