Thursday Is All About Democracy In The UK – And Whether We’ll Still Have It Afterwards

Lord Howard on BBC Newsnight explaining to Evan Davies his concerns about the supremacy of the EU Court of Justice, and why he supports leaving the EU.

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‘People don’t understand that the European Court of Justice now has the power to overrule Acts of Parliament. It’s already overruled an Act of the Scottish Parliament.’

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10 responses to “Thursday Is All About Democracy In The UK – And Whether We’ll Still Have It Afterwards

  1. Tom Austin

    I am in the least less happy now that the arguments for Brexit are getting more and more desperate – this one is a doozy, as the Americans might say.
    Consider this from Lord Judge…
    “The Childcare Act 2016 (now a Conservative administration), is a skeletal act whose objective it to make provision for free childcare available to working parents. It says very little, but it creates huge ministerial powers. When it was a Bill, the Constitution Committee complained ‘legislation of this type increases the power of the executive at the expense of Parliament.’ It was described by the Delegated Powers Committee in
    unequivocal language. In our view, the government’s stated approach to delegation is flawed. While the Bill may contain a legislative framework, it contains virtually nothing of substance beyond the vague ‘mission statement’ in clause 1 (1). Those amply justified expressions of concern made no difference to the Act. The government is not bound by them. To discharge this mere ‘mission statement’ power has been given to the Secretary of State to legislate by regulation. It includes eleven specific
    regulation making powers, including regulations to confer powers on Revenue and Customs, regulations to create criminal offences, regulations to impose financial penalties, and indeed identifies the relevant level of sentence. Over and above all this regulations may:
    a) confer a discretion on any person;
    b) make different provision for different purposes;
    c) make consequential, incidental, supplemental, transitional or saving
    provision;
    d) amend, repeal or revoke any provision made by or under an Act
    (whenever passed or made.)…”
    Read Lord Judge’s speech in full…
    https://www.kcl.ac.uk/law/newsevents/newsrecords/2015-16/Ceding-Power-to-the-Executive—Lord-Judge—130416.pdf

    -Simply put: Any (UK) Government can ‘confer on any person’ absolute discretion on any matter, any law; past, pending or to come.

    -The point being: If we wish to have Democracy, we will most likely, find it through the EU well before we get a hint of it in the UK.

    • Sabre

      The EU does all that and more. We can at least boot the government out in this country and electricity another that will repeal or amend existing legislation.

      • Tom Austin

        Well, I suppose. There is no getting away from those who see only what they wish to see – even if it means agreeing with somebody for the first time.
        Although, I do still wonder what all of this is doing to the popular Brexit snipe at we Remainers; that it is us that are the ‘turkeys voting for Christmas.’

  2. Sabre

    Can’t think of anything else I’ve ever agreed with him on. He’s right in this case.

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  4. Democratic country? this gobshite totally unelected, but qite happy to make our laws ,or afree to laws being made for us, it’s really is remarkable.

    • Tom Austin

      Yes Reg, They’ve all done an excellent job…of trying to get we Democrats to stay home today – so they can again ‘Lord’ it over us.
      But, its a nice day for a fairly short walk.
      Happy voting all.

  5. nuggy

    the words lord and democracy dont really go together

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