At one point we were looking at Clement Freud but the allegation alluded to a Liberal MP and boys, not girls. The allegation was made by Des Wilson in The Mail (below). Freud was checked in connection but we felt that the Isle of Ely, Cambridgeshire, was not far enough north of Watford given the 3 hour train journey from London mentioned in the article..
Then there was the local party leader from well to the north of Watford who had to be woken from his bed on many a Friday and Saturday night to attend a local police station and rescue his MP from trouble after he had been picked up in one dubious circumstance or another. This MP once asked me to travel for three hours to speak to his local party one Friday evening. When I arrived at his house he was just welcoming two attractive ‘boys’ who had also travelled from London on the same train. I was put in a taxi and sent to the meeting without even the offer of dinner while the MP headed to some dodgy backstreet club with his much younger friends.
Sir Clement Freud, the former broadcaster and politician, was exposed last night as a paedophile who sexually abused girls as young as 10 for decades.
Freud, who died in 2009, spent years abusing a girl who he brought up as a daughter, and violently raped a teenager while he was an MP.
His widow, Lady Freud, has apologised to his victims, saying she is “shocked, deeply saddened and profoundly sorry” for what her husband of 58 years did to them.
Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have been alerted to the fact that Freud had a villa in Praia da Luz, Portugal, the resort where the three-year-old went missing in 2007.
He befriended the McCanns in the weeks after their daughter went missing, entertaining them at his house on two occasions and keeping in contact by phone and email.
The McCanns are said to be “horrified” by the discovery that Freud was a paedophile.
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I am VERY sorry for Lady Freud but I think that surely she MUST have had some inclination about her husband”s sexual preferences and whose not to acknowledge them, perhaps she was relieved that she didn`t have to perform her marital duties. They were married for heavens sake. Clement Freud turns my stomach over.
Worth reminding the British forces pedants (disinfo saps) that British Intelligence blackmail child abusers. Give 3 out of 4 of the VIP Westminster heavyweights are Jews it makes sense that this ratio of .4% of the population occupying 75% of the top child raping political jobs (Cyril Smith the gentile) vs Leon, Janner & Freud that some strategy was in process. The alternative is Jews like to rape kids and I see no corroboration for that.
I think what we saps are saying is that British Intelligence were spying on the spy who was spying on Freud. From before he was an MP.
Leading to a possibility Freud became an MP through Intelligence influence ? To attract even more questions which are more informative than answers.
My view of MI5 is that they are dangerously inept but attached to Kiplingesque games.
I rate them quite high. Look at who they blackmailed as a counterbalance to rising Zionist global power. Remember who holds the holocaust cards. The Russians, The Brits and the Americans. In any case, all in it together for the time being.
I am more concerned at who holds the screwdrivers.
The woman who appointed New Zealand’s worst judge to chair the CSA inquiry. http://www.kiwisfirst.com/judge-file-index/high-court-justice-lowell-goddard/
if at least part of these sort of operations were intended as an soe in waiting for an anti soviet/socialist revolution role and was modelled on the ww2 auxiliary reserve the initial chain of command would have been chief constable(or other very high ranking police officer/suitable local bigwig) selects a unit leader who was usually ex military who subsequently creates a unit typically of :a police officer,another ex military chap,a couple of criminals,a couple of chaps who know the landscape (postal worker,delivery man etc etc ),a couple of teenagers who dont attract suspicion but are very capable (scouting was a favourite recruiting ground for those) .the backgrounds often overlapped eg an ex mil + burglar or +poacher etc etc .
even today the a r history bods have big gaps on their map of known units,(i filled in a few details for part of a west yorks unit for them from things i had been told and shown as a kid).
if it had kicked off one of their first tasks was to pop the cc who originally started the unit so as nobody but them knew who they were and they had no knowledge of any other units.
it seems very plausible this style of preparation was one of the gladio a models and might have been retained into gladio b days as part of the overall system ,it would account for quite a few of the details that have emerged regarding such matters.
dpack you are on fire. In Thanet 3 ringleaders in the TA HSF unit duped 18 other middle aged TA soldiers and conned them they had “Sworn in” as honorary members of UDR. Here have a UDR ID card each !!
They formed a “Local Intelligence Unit” to spy on IRA in Thanet (I know ….. and they believed it all) and they did missions to Ulster and into Ireland.
But they were arrested after two years of their own traing schedule which included sensory deprivation. It appears that Andre (the man later sectioned for running the operation) was in fact buying a military combat magazine and teaching the lads from a series possiibly itself written by a bogus ex SAS con man.
BUT you are right I think. One of the arrested TA men did give a statement. That one night all night fishing he saw a patrol of combat suited men carrying out training in that Broad Oak area they thought was their preserve. And he thought he may be being diidled out of some TA overtime so had a covert watch. None of the men were TA But One … one of the three running their UDR malarkey. The pal and later c onstituency vice chair north thanet tory ex special constable pal of Roger Gale MP. There was a shadow group left uninvestigated. Take yer choice Andre easily sectioned off mad as a box of frogs leading a smokescreen thinking he was Special Forces in his 50s ? His number 3 really being the alpha male and running a shadow group of non TA Andre was unaware of.
Senior military figures ? Try a retired major in Invicta military preservation society and the name Col Robert Butler (Neaves paramilitary recruiter ?) got a mention. Those are my suspects.
The whole thing was pathetic except for guns and explosives.
Two of those involved in local intelligence took me along for an after hours drink at a pub called Clifton Arms Margate. While I was just initially wary summat fecking odd was going on in our TA.
I will tell you who I think was sat there. I think it was Steve Brady of Ramsgate based IRA supportive League of St George who was a dead ringer for Gerry Adams. And the Irish with him challenged me who I thought it was. So I said looks like that w-nker Gerry Adams mate. At which point my two TA colleagues fled out the pub. I think the one who was Gale MPs mate was an associate of League of St George
All I could say to Pat Monteath when he was researching his book was that if he really believed they were planning to snatch Slab Murphy then where were they going to get the bottle ?
When the 21 were arrested they all burst into tears in Canterbury nick cells. It was a pathetic thing. Auxiliary Units ? My arse. Very strange.
A quite tall colonel from ashford came out to Broadstairs and suggested after the arrests everyone keep quiert including those not involved. And I said no. They did not have Crown authority nick em.
IIRC he asked where I got my ideas from. I said 1969 Army Air Corps Squadron sgt major over us was from 22 SAS. He liked law and constitution.
So that was it. I cleared vetting for unaccompanied access at Plessey torpedoes two years later so I infer I was not flagged up as an awkward sod.
But the SAS SSM was right. Know what you fight for love what you know. Otherwise why those old geezers draw up magna carta. Simple.
that is interesting,your point about anti oira units being fairly redundant once the troubles really kicked off is especially valid and relevant to later events.
the belgian stuff is a very dark and massive set of worm cans some of which nest inside others, i expect most will never be opened and tipped out for all to see. the ones that have been punctured smell horrible but even they have not been fully opened and examined.
sybel edmonds’s work covers some of the belgian gladio b stuff and it’s international links.
it seems likely that members of le circle were involved as they were (are?) very much of the times and territory and seem to crop up in many relevant places .
the anti union unit i was thinking of was a little later and uk mainland based with no obvious link to irish matters, it’s focus was towards the num,power workers,,dockers etc and the tuc in general if the various industrial tensions of the early to mid 70’s became coordinated into some sort of socialist rebellion.it may have had elements of anti sabotage but seems primarily anti left uprising/general strike
the hints i have come across seem to suggest it was not an mod ( and perhaps not even a gladio b project) but that it was the creation of some on the political right, some with military backgrounds (including stirling) and was to be staffed by a ragbag of patriots ,right wing activist types ,retired military folk ,assorted folk who could be moulded into a militia ,some who could drive trains run a power station etc etc and for the armed wing to obtain training by joining the ta and privately in any less regular tactics that might be required.
im not sure about sources of arms and equipment but the hints suggest these were available for training and in bulk if required to oppose a left wing uprising .
they were either a small and ill organised ragbag with a story bigger than the reality or rather good at hiding themselves long term.
tis all a bit vague .
i had wondered if walker was involved in some way but have found no mention of it.
.My bother was approached by a group called Churchills Commandos prior to 72 when he was in RAF. Now with hindsight it could have been feeding bollix in for the OIRA man to pick up ? As I wrote bro did not get a warning on OIRA man till 1973 AFTER his OMans ops controller tour ended. So he had gone 1966 to 72 with two pos vettings and the spookies had delayed telling him.
There was an opportunity 1969 70 when a Polish WO from Wattisham was seconded to Cyrprus and I later learned was given the warning out there that OIRA man was targeting his 18 year old daughter in Suffolk. This is the girl beaten up by IRA in Tidworth married quarters Nov Dec 1972. As a result Army advised moving to Suffolk till her soldier husband Ulster tour ended.
The paramilitary activity in TA at Broadstairs started with the typical story you set out. Anti soviet resistance in waiting. Officers may need to be killed. Self styled cold war warrior stuff. The plod told me the same had happened in HSF TA units in Wilts and Staffs but I gather only East Kent got taken in I am told the same happened in East Anglia but one TA soldier was a civilian SOCO with Suffolk plod and reported the offer of paramilitary training using a Essex former quarry. So I infer plod knew what was going on but the Kent military fantasy was allowed to run till arrests at Broad Oak halted it two years later in 87. By which time forged UDR ID cards explosives unlawful weapons missions to Ulster and into apple growing areas of Ireland meets with OIRA.
As far as I know the training land belonged to a tory county Cllr pal of Roger Gale MP the late Cllr Derek Dolding. There had I now know been reports by PSIs at other TA bases who saw the Broadstaors paramilitaries using MOD Mereworth Woods for training “With weapons they were not entitled to”
The whole constitutional arrangement of Crown authority and monopoly of armed force spat on just like the Gladio units operative in UK.
Dangerous fools accepting orders from chains of command that cannot exist lawfully. And toting guns and explosives. A plod taking decisions without referral to CPS or Attorney General to not bring charges. Off duty plod involved as instructors at the 6th Thanet Gun Range in Roger Gale constituency even live fire training the Saudis with uzis (like plod had the expertise !) I dunno if gun club staklwart elderly Ken Speakman was going to speak up He was tortured to death in his home 1996 and his gun collection stolen. Anthony Swindells ex FFL was convicted and recently faced a parole hearing. The parole board has no policy for compliance with statutory reporting duties (such as paramilitary training at gun ranges Section 54) Terrorism Act 2000.
Then 2008 as I said slithery Jack Straw repealed the law of Crown authority for military with the repeal of Unlawful Drilling Act 1819 in 2008 just in time for press to expose James Shortt of Deal Barracks founded International Bodyguards Assn as a bogus ex SAS con man all along !
thanks for the info ,some is new some is confirmation.
belgium is a multi pack of worm cans, from the very top to below the very bottom and also internationally there are threads of connection that weave on a belgian loom into a very ugly broadcloth.
the connections to turkish gladio b operations and politics are notable .
i spose the nato/eu central hubs located there (and perhaps it’s historical african adventures and strategic position in a historic european theatre of war) make it of importance and activities disproportionately to it’s size,geographic position or standing as a sovereign state/economy on a global stage.
the ta has been cover for a variety of dodgy activities some of which are almost certainly gladio b operations.
the armed wings of the far right with a gladio b flavour have a strong ta association and in the 70’s might have had helpful input from stirling among others.stirling was almost certainly involved in the origins of gladio a (and the more overt artist’s rifles > 21 ta regiments as a home defence force against a early cold war soviet invasion or bolshevik uprising) and plausibly seems to have adjusted his thinking to the gladio b style of strategy in the 1960’s/70’s.
these gladio b activities include the likes of c18 with a fairly overt agenda but also include a rather vague and shadowy “anti union” movement in the 70’s who were a militia in waiting in case of a general strike/uprising by the organised grass roots TUC socialists and perhaps seen as potentially useful in the aftermath of any possible coup (walker et al etc) or in a “state of emergency” situation.
a slight aside the ta ( and especially 21 ,intel and signals reg’s )have recently provided personnel to a variety of official and semi official clandestine ops. the srr springs to mind abroad but intel on domestic matters that would not be usually be considered “military”, such as eco and social/political activism, has fallen to ta/reservist personnel among others .
i add that in case folk consider them just office boys playing soldiers at weekends, although many are just that, there are elements within the ta who are well hard and/or sneaky.
My view is that research for an anti saboteur anti militant union unit was conducted under 1969 Army job evaluation pay review. If I was writing a story I would call the resulting unit Hail Force consisting of SAS influenced techy NCOs taking defence cut redundancy 1970 and transferring to LTR
IF such a unit existed my view is it was left to wither on vine after 71 Ballymurphy massacre and 1972 Bloody Sunday massacre as the pillars of the OIRA class war avowedly Marxist soviet backed plans fractured. Broken by the inevitable breakdown to sectarian conflict the OIRA were at pains to avoid.
Pat Monteath wrote his Ferryman trilogy Quill publishing based on true events like the 1987 arrests in Kent unlawful missions to Ulster and Ireland I have mentioned. His main character Richard is based entirely on a now dead Kent fruit farmer Andre Tong. The sidekick Paul is a composite character between an ex para who served as a special in Kent Plod and Mick Leeds a Boughton blacksmith who never served in Army but was an ACF cadet leader. You will find Mick as an author on Amazon writing stories of SAS in Ulster.
Andre was indeed sectioned after the arrests and the decision not to charge Leeds and the other 19 was NOT taken by CPS or Attorney General (Fiat required Explosive Substances Act 1883). The arrests were under Unlawful Drilling Act 1819 the law conveniently repealed by Jack Straw in 2008 just in time for press to expose James Shortt as a bogus ex SAS con man.
An Shortt IBA associate at Deal Barracks was Jean Bultot the Belgian prison governer alleged procurer for the Belgian military gladio intelligence pink ballets abuse ring. Belgian statute of limitations expires this year re Barbant killings so possibly Bultot will return from South America.