Sympathy For The Devil

The Friday Night Song

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8 responses to “Sympathy For The Devil

  1. My favourite Rolling Stones song.

  2. dpack

    i had my first drum lesson from speedy aqua who played talking drum on the hyde park version.

    ace tune,perfect for when a fight breaks out in the crowd.

  3. iantoosmart

    Is this a provocation or a prediction? I love the song but Bill Wyman’s relationship with Mandy Smith, which began when she was 13 and he was 47 surely deserved the attention of the police. According to Mandy, their relationship was sexually consummated when she was 14. It all went to hell a few years later. Is this not grooming?

  4. iantoosmart

    The odd thing is that his son married Mandy’s mother.

    Have the police simply been sensitive to what Mandy has said in this case? Surely a crime was committed whether she and her family made a complaint or not. In one article I read, it said he’d been a serial womaniser who’d slept with over 1000 women when he took up with Mandy as a 13 year old. The police seem to have gone after others with much less evidence. The Express story you linked to has the feel of a Max Clifford spin piece. Remember there was a period when Clifford came out and said lots of pop stars were worried about their pasts. Think carefully about this line:

    ‘The millionaire bass player said he asked detectives and prosecutors if they wanted to question him but they declined his offer’.

    There is no evidence that this ever happened. There is no date or location. When does a member of the public speak with a ‘prosecutor’. Did he simply have a beer with a CPS lawyer and a local copper who happened to be in the golf club?

    There is a supposed quote from Mandy where she says ‘“I didn’t sleep with him until eight or nine months after we started going out. I think it was kind of expected that I would sleep with him. You know, you go out with someone for a while, you are boyfriend and girlfriend.”

    That really doesnt sound like the honest reflection of a person who was only 13 years old when it started.

    I can only find this story in the Mail and in the Express.

    Isnt it just possible that Mandy was given a large sum of money to quietly go away. And isn’t it just possible that of the 1000 or so other people who were ‘womanised’ by this man, there may have been other underage girls?

    Is it also possible that he is, to an extent, beyond the law through wealth, fame and connections? And of course isnt he just the kind of person that would have been talking with Max Clifford?

  5. iantoosmart

    The odd thing is that his son married Mandy’s mother.

    Have the police simply been sensitive to what Mandy has said in this case? Surely a crime was committed whether she and her family made a complaint or not. There seems to be no record of the police actually speaking with Mandy.

    In one article I read, it said Wyman had been a serial womaniser who’d slept with over 1000 women when he took up with Mandy as a 13 year old. The police seem to have gone after others with much less evidence. The Express story you linked to has the feel of a Max Clifford spin piece. Remember there was a period when Clifford came out and said lots of pop stars were worried about their pasts. Think carefully about this line:

    ‘The millionaire bass player said he asked detectives and prosecutors if they wanted to question him but they declined his offer’.

    There is no evidence that this ever happened. There is no date or location. When does a member of the public speak with a ‘prosecutor’. Did he simply have a beer with a CPS lawyer and a local copper who happened to be in the golf club?

    There is a supposed quote from Mandy where she says ‘“I didn’t sleep with him until eight or nine months after we started going out. I think it was kind of expected that I would sleep with him. You know, you go out with someone for a while, you are boyfriend and girlfriend.”

    Does that sound like the honest reflection of a person who was only 13 years old when it started? I did some tracking down and It’s a quote from a story in the Mail from 2010. It’s an odd story. Later in the piece, she says ‘These days, we would use words such as ‘ grooming’. She nods. ‘I honestly don’t know if it was that. I’ve thought about this a lot and I just don’t know’. That’s also an odd statement from a woman who in 2010 is 40 years old.

    Isn’t it just possible that Mandy was given a large sum of money to quietly go away and either say these things or allow them to be said? And isn’t it just possible that of the 1000 or so other people who were ‘womanised’ by this man, there may have been other underage girls? I mean it’s seriously unusual that a 47 year old takes a 13 year old to clubs isn’t it! And her parents agreed to this?

    Is it possible that he is, to an extent, beyond the law through wealth, fame and connections? And of course isn’t he just the kind of person that would have been talking with Max Clifford?

    In a curious coincidence, his main residence at Geddes Hall in Suffolk, is thirty minutes by road from Thornham Magna.

  6. iantoosmart

    I read the Mail story in more depth and it’s the original source for Mandy’s comments.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1266664/Mandy-Smith-I-DID-sleep-Bill-Wyman-I-14–man-life-God.html

    It’s an odd story. She says ‘These days, we would use words such as ‘ grooming’. She nods. ‘I honestly don’t know if it was that. I’ve thought about this a lot and I just don’t know’. That’s an odd statement from a woman who in 2010 is 40 years old.

    Wyman’s main residence is Geddes Hall in Suffolk, by sheer coincidence, thirty minutes drive from Thornham Magna.