Internet campaign about satanic cult at Hampstead school was ‘fantasy’ says judge

I’m going to take the unusual step of quoting a news article in full, my apologies to the Ham & High but I know that many of those that Judge Mrs Justice Pauffley has criticised read The Needle, though no material was ever published here,  I feel that republishing in full the article is the responsible thing to do.

Let me say that I support Judge Mrs Justice Pauffley’s comments 100%.

There are never circumstances where the public release of personal, sensitive, and highly confidential information regarding young children is appropriate and anyone who has a genuine interest in child safeguarding will join me in condemning what has happened.

Those responsible have jeopardised all the hard work by campaigners against institutional Child Sexual Abuse and the many sacrifices of genuine survivors and they have put extremely sensitive and identifying information into the public domain which may further upset and harm those two young children as they grow up and that is in itself a form of child abuse.

Please reflect on that.

Two young children, now in care, who had been forced to take part in the “baseless” campaign had their innocence stolen by their mother and her partner, top Family Division judge Mrs Justice Pauffley ruled.

She was giving a fact finding judgment in care proceedings brought by the London Borough of Barnet involving two children, aged nine and eight, who were said to be at the centre of the cult’s abuse.

The judge said that in September last year “lurid allegations of the most serious kind” were drawn to the attention of the Metropolitan Police suggesting the children were part of a large group of children abused by the satanic cult.

The children’s father was said to be the leader of the cult and teachers and a priest were said to be members.

Both children – who can only be identified as P and Q – are now in care.

She said the children had been forced to lie about their alleged abuse by the “cult” by their mother and her partner.

The children themselves had been repeatedly named on the internet with their pictures and film clips.

But the judge said: “My sense was that the children, for the most part, were in the realms of fantasy.”

Referring to the internet claims, she said: “The assertions were that babies had been abused tortured and then sacrificed. “Their throats were slit, blood was drunk and cult members would then dance wearing babies’ skulls – sometimes with blood and hair still attached – on their bodies.”

She added: “Both P and Q have suffered significantly. Their innocence was invaded. Their minds were scrambled. Their grip on reality was imperilled.

“They were introduced to sexual practices of which they had no real understanding at a time when they should have been shielded from such things.”

But after a lengthy private hearing when the children themselves were interviewed and examined the judge declared: “I am able to state with complete conviction that none of the allegations are true.

“I am entirely certain that everything the mother, her partner and the children said about those matters was fabricated.

“The claims are baseless. Those who have sought to perpetrate them are evil and or foolish.”

She said filmed interviews of the children had been uploaded onto the internet with more than four million people worldwide viewing online material about the case.

She added: “It is inevitable that a large proportion of those have a sexual interest in children. Any rational adult who uploads film clips to YouTube featuring children speaking about sexual activity must be assumed to realise that fact.”

She said the children had been forced by their mother and her partner “to provide concocted accounts of horrific events”.

She said: “The stories came about as the result of relentless emotional and psychological pressure as well as significant physical abuse.

“Torture is a strong word but it is the most accurate way to describe what was done to the children by the mother’s partner in collaboration with the mother.

“The children were made to take part in filmed mobile phone recordings in which they relayed a series of fabricated satanic practices.”

She said the mother took no part in the court proceedings and had now disappeared.

She had not been seen since early February with rumours that she had fled abroad.

The mother’s partner took no part either. But the judge found he had physically abused the children.

She said the parents met in 2003 and there was an “acrimonious” split up three years later.

The mother then accused the father of the most serious kinds of sexual abuse, with “grotesque” assertions of repeated interference with them since they were babies.

But the judge completely cleared the children’s father of any abuse.

She said she had no doubt but that the physical injuries described by the children as having been inflicted by their mother’s partner were indeed caused by him.

She rejected as “baseless” the mother’s suggestion that instead their father was responsible.

She continued: “The children were made to absorb and repeat on film and in interview grotesque claims against so many blameless people including the father whom they love.”

She added: “All of the material promulgated by the mother, now published on the internet, is nothing more than utter nonsense.

“The long term emotional and psychological harm of what was done to the children is incalculable. The impact of the internet campaign is likely to have the most devastating consequences for P and Q.”

She said the internet campaign has continued and as fast as online material was taken down it appeared on other websites.

“All the signs are that those responsible for posting material derive a great deal of personal satisfaction from attracting interest to their spiteful work from many thousands of people,” she added.

“It’s akin to the sensation, I imagine, of a Facebook user receiving an indication that some posting or other has been ‘liked’.”

She added: “The individuals who have watched online film clips, read online articles and believed in the allegations would do well to reflect that ‘things may not be what they seem’, and that it is all too easy to be duped on the basis of partial information.

“There are many campaigning people, sadly, who derive satisfaction from spreading their own poisonous version of history irrespective of whether it is true or not.”

Ham & High

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60 responses to “Internet campaign about satanic cult at Hampstead school was ‘fantasy’ says judge

  1. Jack

    I am well aware that child abuse has been covered up for decades. I am well aware that the great and the good are involved. But anyone with half a brain could see this story was utter nonsense and could see it for what it was. It seems too many people have now switched off their critical faculties When it comes to ANY claim of abuse it just HAS to be true. The pendulum has swung too far and the people who will benefit are the real abusers.

    • paul

      totally agree ,we’ve gone from one extreme where no one would believe allegations to the other extreme where every allegation ,no matter how implausible,is automatically believed. no proof needed.

    • Sabre

      I don’t pretend to be au fait with this case, however, how do we KNOW that it’s utter nonsense?

      I hope that the reason isn’t because a Judge says so !

      • Dear Needle blogger,

        I can assure you I would NOT have spent all my time since November with the mother and her ‘case’, if I did not KNOW that the messengers, i.e. her children are speaking from their experience and that it’s up to ACT on their message.

        Here’s the email that I sent to the Home Secretary with the link to the privately recorded videos that did not form part of the court proceedings:

        Believing victims is a prerequisite for any campaign. I believe these children. Why should I not???

      • Ms McNeill

        I’m not going to get into a debate with you.

        It is fairly obvious from the family court judgement ( here – http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=%2Few%2Fcases%2FEWFC%2FHCJ%2F2015%2F26.html&query=ZC14C00315&method=boolean) that the police will want to talk to Ms Draper (mother) and her partner Mr Christie. I also understand from an interview you have done and from information on a website run by friends of yours that the police want to speak to you too.

        Running away is not the answer. If you genuinely have the interests of the children at heart then you will turn yourself in and cooperate with the authorities here in the UK.

        Until then, by your own account, you are a fugitive from the law in relation to an appalling case of child exploitation and abuse.

      • If you feel you need to put yourself on the moral high ground and judge me as a ‘fugitive of the law’, then you’ll have to go through a major learning curve still regarding the gap: between the law and its enforcement.

        I can tell you it’s not a pleasant one. I wish I did NOT have to wake up to what I have learned to see from FIRST HAND experiences, not paper ‘realities’.

      • I’ve edited your post. This blog is not a place for you to promote yourself and your ‘interests’

        You are deluded.

        You can’t face the hard fact that you are wrong and so you take comfort from the misguided belief that you are a victim. The victims are the children not you and far from ‘helping’ them you’ve harmed them but you can’t face that reality.

        If you had any credibility you’d hand yourself in.

        Why is your McKenzie Friend advisor banned from taking civil action in the UK ? Is that a ‘conspiracy’ also ?

  2. Anne Wade

    Thank you for publishing this. I researched the Orkney satanic abuse allegations personally in minute detail, and found them to be utterly baseless.
    I also followed an attempt to start another such alarm in Hull, and the way the allegations were successfully fought off before they took fire. I looked at the other cases in Britain, in less detail, and did not find one with anything, as la Fontaine said, more than a ritualistic element (eg dressing up as Santa Claus in Nottingham) in a sadly banal case of child sexual abuse.

  3. One would do well to ,look into the backgrounds of those who quite deliberately chose to “promote” the interest in this “story”. Sadly, this is typical of one of the blind alleys I expected to appear the moment Savile was outed and people felt able to come forward with true tales of abuse. As Gary has so succinctly put it, there are undoubtedly those who choose to dress up abuse in some form of ritual aspect. What I would say about that is this, they are far more likely to have been educated at a school that promoted such rituals to cover most of their childhood or teenage years. be they “military”, “religious” ., or purely “ceremonial” educational establishments. Ritualistic aspects also tend to appeal to ex members of the armed forces and the police.

  4. nuggy

    theyve been talking about this cults for 30 years now. if theyve really existed you would some credible evedence would of been found by now but none.

    so i can only conclude they dont exist.

    • Are you sure of that? So kids claiming they were abused by people in strange robes and chants are all a bunch of liars are they?

      Narrative number ten.

      • Anon

        Certain professions and social associations are predisposed to dressing up in strange clothes.

      • gw

        In some cases… yes. Yes they are.

      • gw

        I don’t have any specific statistics to hand. The Hollie Greig palava is one example although it’s clear that she was manipulated. The idea that 100% of accusations (of anything!) being true is nonsensical.

        Lets face it there are some massively disturbed people out there. Case in point “Zoompad” though whilst I can’t comment on her past, did accuse me of being on paedophile on this very blog! I’m over it now ;)

      • Some of the people behind “the Hollie Greig palava” were behind this, including Belinda McKenzie.

        If people spent just a fraction of the time looking into The Association of McKenzie Friends as they did trying to justify this conspiracy theory then they’d have a real conspiracy. I know because I did look into it.

        John Hemmings MP withdrew as patron in January.

      • Yes it’s all conspiracy theory isn’t it and Elm Guest House was all made up and Geoffrey Dickens was a fantasist. And North Wales was an invention. Richard Webster said so.

      • Becky

        Well the Vatican said they were;)

      • Which Vatican? The bank?

  5. nuggy

    did they actually say it or did a social worker say it. bob have you ever researched the Orkney satnic allegations were social workers tried to bully kids into saying they had been abused by a satnic child abuse ring.

  6. tdf

    “But anyone with half a brain could see this story was utter nonsense and could see it for what it was.”

    Er, well, yeah. Fortunately I didn’t see too many of the tweeters I follow (a substantial % of whom are active anti-CSA tweeters/campaigners, and most likely to have read or heard at least something about the case) giving the bizarre and outlandish claims made in this case much or any credence.

    Of course there will be those who will say that the judge’s decision is further ‘proof’ of the existence of vast secretive baby-sacrificing cult, but there has always been a certain % of the population prepared to believe, well, basically anything.

  7. dpack

    “amateur” attempts to mislead are unhelpful whatever the motives however they are usually self disproving as the “story”does not have internal or external coherence.
    deliberate and “professional”attempts to mislead in order to conceal truths are sometimes harder to spot and disprove.at times it is the total number of variations of the “truth”that conceals real truths hidden in plain view.

  8. Dressing up in costumes, Members of House of Lord’s, Judges, Priests. teachers in Public Schools, and the Police. Recent stories that some are involved in cover ups. Must be something about dressing up in costumes that make you forgetful, economical with the truth, and cover up for your superiors. Somebody should do a doctorate on do clothes maketh the man and costumes makes you think you are all powerful?

  9. barb

    im not so sure . yes it was wrong to put the two kids faces in the videos . something i really had not thought about as was so incensed but if you have really read the evidence there is something not quite right about the whole story . sabine states quite categorically that she didnt post the videos so who did ? and also you say gojam you dont wont posts on this thread about sra well i do i want to know the whole truth . everything has been hidden for years its not right and should all be out .frustrating

  10. Anonymous

    Well done, Needleblog, on taking this approach. Responsible and appropriate.

  11. Becky

    Statistically speaking, kids are probably a lot safer with a Satanist than they are with a Priest;)

    • Sabre

      How many priest-child interaction hours do you have statistics for Becky?
      How many satanist- child interaction hours?

      What percentage of the priest child interaction hours have been found to be abusive?

      What percentage of the satanist child interaction hours have been found to be abusive?

      What is the ratio of abusive priest child interaction hours to abusive satanist child interaction hours?

      Without the aforementioned data, Becky, your premise is but an assertion.

      Do you have comparative statistics re Rabbis and Imams?

  12. Let us hope that Abraham, Ella and Sabine are brought to justice as soon as possible.

  13. tdf

    [QUOTE] bobchewie
    March 20, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    Yes it’s all conspiracy theory isn’t it and Elm Guest House was all made up and Geoffrey Dickens was a fantasist. And North Wales was an invention. Richard Webster said so. [/QUOTE]

    Hmm. I think we should be careful of taking a Manichaeist approach to this.

    Thinking one particular theory is b.s. is not the same as thinking those things you’ve outlined are in the same vein.

    • Never heard of sarcasm obviously

    • You should ask senior people at BBC about that as they seem to think that Westminster VIP paedophile rings is all tinfoil hat conspiracy theory

      Even planned a panorama program to say so.

      Mr Aaronovitch was included in this though he now denies it

      Seems they are still smarting over the Saville stuff

      • Angie's Fag

        Chewie stick with your leader Spivey, you obviously do not have the intelligence to see the difference between the truth and a hoax.

  14. Its all a load of nonsense? This is the 21st century, we live in a scientific age, We live in a society where most people have had 11-17 years of education. At the same time England in the last forty years has become a more secular society and the paradox has been the more secular the country has become the more we have the growth of alternative religions or superstitions. I remember a man some years ago who used to hang around the University library looking for potential converts to a cult that believed they should share all things as a group. Look at the rising interest in the Occult Witchcraft, and Satanic books and people’s interest in these type of things. Halloween is now part of the social calendar and not just for children with a turnip.
    Those above are the obvious one’s and are now heavily commercialised.
    There may be others, of a more sinister nature and intent, that remain behind closed doors.
    What is known and well documented is that child abuse is not a new phenomenon, it has a long history down the ages. It is well documented that children have been used as sacrifices in many cultures or for sexual pleasure. Now of course we live in the twenty first century and such things should be seen as things from a long gone civilisation, Well if you think its history read this horrifying account. Ritual abuse goes on in the world, it needs addressing or how many more people will lead scarred life’s.
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/boys-pleasure-sexual-abuse-children-betrays-isis-hypocrisy-1483322

  15. anonamoose

    Still nonsense – https://youtu.be/mPckCupCcQs ??

    Don’t believe your lying eyes……

  16. anonamoose

    Go jam you are a very rude individual I hope you can find it in your heart to express points of view without resorting to name calling and ridicule.

    Can you provide any information or evidence that is independant to the official line?

    Thought not. Unfortunately for you this is one of the reasons people in this country are fed up of having thier livelihoods sold to banks and MPs f**king thier kids.

    YOUR MORAL COMPASS SEEMS TO BE MALFUNCTIONING OR JUST PLAIN NOT WORKING.

    game over for cretins like you.

    The waters boiling and your in the pot,
    WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
    ban me proberly…………

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