Islamic Groups: Ramadhan Foundation And Together Against Grooming

If the issue of child grooming within some muslim communities is publicly recognised as a cultural problem by muslims themselves, then why are the British authorities so reluctant to address the problem?

Mohammed Shafiq and

Mohammed Shafiq and Alyas Karmani, the kind of people I’m happy to live in the same country as.

We are happy to recognise a cultural problem within the Catholic church and the Church of England, why not in Muslim communities ? Surely it would be racist not to treat all groups exactly the same ?

Mr Shafiq [Ramadhan Foundation] said: “There is a significant problem for the British Pakistani community, there is an over-representation amongst recent convictions in the crime of on-street grooming, there should be no silence in addressing the issue of race as this is central to the actions of these criminals.

“They think that white teenage girls are worthless and can be abused without a second thought; it is this sort of behaviour that is bringing shame on our community.

“I urge the police and the councils not to be frightened to address this issue, there is a strong lesson that you cannot ignore race or be over sensitive.”

He added: “I have been overwhelmed by the support the Ramadhan Foundation has been given by young people for our campaign on child grooming but concerned that community elders are once again burying their heads in the sand, this concerns us all and we must speak out.

“The community elders need to learn from the reaction of young people and reject any attempt to silence the reaction from our community.

“We have over the past 12 months seen tremendous progress, more Imams have spoken out in Friday sermons; workshops and activities for young people have happened in the community and there is a strong commitment to see this work through.

“We encourage local authorities and schools to learn from Rochdale where over 9,000 teenagers have attended a workshop on child grooming.

“The Ramadhan Foundation is ready to stand with anyone who wishes to protect these young teenagers.”
He said the police would need to “reflect on their failures” in this case.

“Finally the far right and fascist movements are not welcome to Rochdale, we reject their division and hatred and it has no place in a tolerant and diverse society.

“We will learn lessons from this case but not allow outsiders to divide us,” Mr Shafiq added.

The Huffington Post


He [Alyas Karmani – ‘Together Against Grooming’] is addressing the question of whether a disproportionate number of British Asian men are involved in grooming underage girls for sex. He thinks the answer is “Yes” – which is also very plain-speaking on a subject around which the British policing, political, academic and social work establishment dances with over-sensitive diplomacy.

Yet Imam Karmani is no maverick. As well as being an imam, he is a psychologist with more than 20 years of practical experience in youth and community work. He is a former adviser to the Department for Education on youth empowerment and a one-time head of race equality for the Welsh Assembly and is now co-director of Street, a project whose name stands for Strategy to Reach, Empower and Educate Teenagers.

The Independent


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7 responses to “Islamic Groups: Ramadhan Foundation And Together Against Grooming

  1. Billy

    Mohammed Shafiq and Alyas Karmani, thank God we have decent and courageous Muslim men willing to tackle this problem and speak out for what is right. Worth more than all the social workers and policemen in Rochdale, Rotherham and Oxford all put together.

  2. Sabre

    “We will learn lessons from this case but not allow outsiders to divide us,” Mr Shafiq added.

    So BNP members that are from the same and similar communities as the white child victims are outsiders, should the BNP claim that the offenders are in fact the true outsiders they are accused of “dividing the community”.
    The fact of the matter is, those that spent more than a decade molesting underage white children along with the neo- liberal establishment and institutions that defended them are responsible for further dividing disparate communities.

  3. helen johnston

    The problem is simple muslim men want to marry virgins, but men cant go without so what do they do ?
    the rules need changing so that two people in love can enjoy each other physically

  4. Reblogged this on Thinking Out Loud and commented:
    Another excellent post I’m reblogging it because its entirely in line with an ongoing theme in this blog. Frankly the ‘community leaders’ speaking now were nowhere to be seen when the children of their communities were growing up learning these outrageousand unopposed attitudes from within their own communities.
    Grateful? Not so much there is a real risk of trouble from outside groups and communities because the education of young men in some communities has been in some ways and by some people including in young childrens own homes completely at odds with not just the UK but most western countries and culture.

  5. Dr Tig

    This fits with my last point – I am not saying there isn’t a problem. There is a problem is this religion and many others including Judiasm and Christianity where is is not acknowledged by the communities themselves but hidden and often covered-up. We should be proud of these Muslim leaders for standing up for human rights but the answer to your question – why are the authorities not keen to act is partly because of racial tension but also because of the wide spread cover up of child sex abuse by the police and establishment in white Britains.

    We need to take the religion out of the equation and focus on all forms of child sex abuse whoever is the perpetrator.

    My concerns are double standards, hypocrisy, distraction, and propaganda not that we shouldn’t be doing all we can to address the problem.

    And unless we address the fundamental flaws in society that allow child sex abuse to be so common place then we are just banging our heads on a brick wall.

    • Andy Barnett

      The flaw in your argument Tig is that you assume we are all one ‘society’ with one big child abuse problem caused by the same ‘fundamental flaws’. You say you want to take religion out of the discussion and yet are more than happy to include race, blaming the whole problem on white people.
      The evidence shows that the pattern of abuse is different within different communities. White British paedophiles tend to act alone, a certain type of Pakistani Muslim tend to act in groups. We shouldn’t be afraid to characterise different patterns of abuse and profile offenders in whatever way makes sense, using religion, race, class, gender, age or whatever.
      As Andrew Norfolk said “As a White British man, I don’t feel threatened when someone says that most paedophiles in this country are white men”. Equally, no Pakistani Muslim should feel threatened when someone says that a sizable few within their community demonstrate zero respect for white girls.