Agree – but why did the chap above not `whistle blow` about Jimmy Savile whilst he was alive and him a serving `copper`?
Another point, its up to the Judge to `police` his/her Court – I believe he thought the Defence Barrister was fair.
How did Stuart Hall get TV exposure to say he was old/heart problems/suicidal before his trial(s)?
Please send him to HMP Belmarsh if convicted, Gojam its not very nice.
I suppose M W-T did nothing because he valued his job more than justice. It’s an unholy mess. The police, judiciary, politicians and journalists have all fallen to new lows. No wonder they aren’t trusted by the public.
Limiting himself to criminal cases, a Dutch
professor, Theodore A. de Roos spoke, in 1991 in his inaugural lecture,
about the importance of the criminal defense. 1 Compared to
American standards de Roos is very careful in defining the limits of
acceptable professional behavior. He emphasizes that the defense of the
“objective” interests of the defendant are most important. One has to
keep in mind that the Dutch criminal process basically is not a process
driven by the parties; rather it is court centered. The court is
basically self-informing. Public interest and public order aspects of
the procedure influence the professional behavior of all participants. 2 De Roos differentiates between defendable, ethical, acceptable and legitimate …
By the very nature of the abuse, when they are rudely shoved out into the wide world (one
of the witnesses, Stephen Mesham, for example, was released on
his sixteenth birthday on Christmas day after two years of abuse, and
had to sleep rough on the streets for four and a half months), they are often deeply psychologically disturbed.
Some of the extreme cases commit suicide, many more were sexually disorientated in the worst possible way.
Some became gay prostitutes, others drug addicts…
It was all very well for us to take statements from former victims in
the cosy atmosphere of a pub lunch, but put them up against an agile and
eminent QC whose sole task is to discredit them, and they quickly
crumble, even break down in tears.
Many former victims now have criminal records of some kind, owing almost
exclusively to the abuse itself, and the barrister will brutally
exploit this as evidence that the witness is unreliable and tainted.
The abuse highlighted above allegedly took place in Pimlico as well as Wrexham. (please note Scallywag has been proved wrong before, for example in accusing John Major of having an affair with his caterer) so I do not know if Simon Regan’s story is true). And naturally I agree with the judge that the QC acted fairly in this case.
Source:
Simon Regan Scallywag Magazine
Shakespeare understood this in the merchant of Venice: The Law is made to protect the Law makers.
A similar situation exists for libel laws in the UK.
So true- I heard on the news the other day how young people are ‘released’ from ‘care’ and sent straight to B+B’s which are also used as bail-hostels for nonces…
To their credit my reply above has been moderated as acceptable on the independent website. I think this is the first time scallywag has been mentioned in the MSM since the scandal broke and would appreciate if you could visit and “like”.
Agree – but why did the chap above not `whistle blow` about Jimmy Savile whilst he was alive and him a serving `copper`?
Another point, its up to the Judge to `police` his/her Court – I believe he thought the Defence Barrister was fair.
How did Stuart Hall get TV exposure to say he was old/heart problems/suicidal before his trial(s)?
Please send him to HMP Belmarsh if convicted, Gojam its not very nice.
MWT is an ex-copper
He was a serving copper when Savile was interviewed in Surrey
I suppose M W-T did nothing because he valued his job more than justice. It’s an unholy mess. The police, judiciary, politicians and journalists have all fallen to new lows. No wonder they aren’t trusted by the public.
Because the establishment is dancing with the devil.
we are all part of the establishment just what tier
Compare and contrast:
The Dutch way……….
Limiting himself to criminal cases, a Dutch
professor, Theodore A. de Roos spoke, in 1991 in his inaugural lecture,
about the importance of the criminal defense. 1 Compared to
American standards de Roos is very careful in defining the limits of
acceptable professional behavior. He emphasizes that the defense of the
“objective” interests of the defendant are most important. One has to
keep in mind that the Dutch criminal process basically is not a process
driven by the parties; rather it is court centered. The court is
basically self-informing. Public interest and public order aspects of
the procedure influence the professional behavior of all participants. 2 De Roos differentiates between defendable, ethical, acceptable and legitimate …
Source:
https://litigation-essentials….
And the English way……….
By the very nature of the abuse, when they are rudely shoved out into the wide world (one
of the witnesses, Stephen Mesham, for example, was released on
his sixteenth birthday on Christmas day after two years of abuse, and
had to sleep rough on the streets for four and a half months), they are often deeply psychologically disturbed.
Some of the extreme cases commit suicide, many more were sexually disorientated in the worst possible way.
Some became gay prostitutes, others drug addicts…
It was all very well for us to take statements from former victims in
the cosy atmosphere of a pub lunch, but put them up against an agile and
eminent QC whose sole task is to discredit them, and they quickly
crumble, even break down in tears.
Many former victims now have criminal records of some kind, owing almost
exclusively to the abuse itself, and the barrister will brutally
exploit this as evidence that the witness is unreliable and tainted.
The abuse highlighted above allegedly took place in Pimlico as well as Wrexham. (please note Scallywag has been proved wrong before, for example in accusing John Major of having an affair with his caterer) so I do not know if Simon Regan’s story is true). And naturally I agree with the judge that the QC acted fairly in this case.
Source:
Simon Regan Scallywag Magazine
Shakespeare understood this in the merchant of Venice: The Law is made to protect the Law makers.
A similar situation exists for libel laws in the UK.
So true- I heard on the news the other day how young people are ‘released’ from ‘care’ and sent straight to B+B’s which are also used as bail-hostels for nonces…
i have a story if you want it
Spill it dude.
I agree – the victims have `no chance` – any proposals?
incubusblog – will send an outline – please forward email address – or ask gojam for mine
The Real Criminals Always Seem to have more ” Human Rights ” than
their Victims
To their credit my reply above has been moderated as acceptable on the independent website. I think this is the first time scallywag has been mentioned in the MSM since the scandal broke and would appreciate if you could visit and “like”.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/qc-criticised-over-andrade-sex-abuse-case-8489152.html
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